Strong/Weak MU 1v1

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Strong/Weak MU 1v1

Postby Telos » Fri 19 Oct, 2018 2:46 am

Hey, I'm wondering if the experienced players can share what they think are the strongest MU in terms of heroes.

I know a few but there's a lot of gaps in my knowledge.
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Re: Strong/Weak MU 1v1

Postby Torpid » Fri 19 Oct, 2018 5:21 am

Apo vs CS is very hard for the CS. Apo also shits on the WSE.

CL vs other chaos heroes, CL wins.

LG is the best in IG mirrors.

IG in general vs nids is very brutal, but I think IQ in particular is monsterous.
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Re: Strong/Weak MU 1v1

Postby Atlas » Fri 19 Oct, 2018 10:27 pm

Warlock vs Chaos is pretty Warlock favored methinks.
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Re: Strong/Weak MU 1v1

Postby Toilailee » Fri 19 Oct, 2018 11:31 pm

TM sucks in mirrors.

WB rocks in mirrors.

Sorc is good against eldar but eldar is good against chaos.

SM (particularly non TM) shits on sorc.

IG is strong vs nids.

Knob is good (relatively speaking) vs eldar.

Knob struggles vs chaos and apo.
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Re: Strong/Weak MU 1v1

Postby Telos » Fri 26 Oct, 2018 4:01 am

It seems that the Warlock tends to be stronger in most MU's with a few exceptions to the Farseer and the Warpspider is almost never chosen. What are the cases where the Farseer or WS are better choices?

Is the Lictor always the weaker choice for nids in all MU's?
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Re: Strong/Weak MU 1v1

Postby Torpid » Fri 26 Oct, 2018 7:47 am

WSE is amazing vs IG and on very large maps.

I don't think FS is better at anything than warlock. Well, she has a better late-game, but the WL just is so much better in T1 that is all that matters in 1v1 and even in 3v3 most of the time you'd rather have a WL than a FS just for his immolator to counter beacons/nests/turrets, all of which are very powerful in 3v3.
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Re: Strong/Weak MU 1v1

Postby Asmon » Sat 27 Oct, 2018 3:04 pm

I'd say FS is better than WL against Chaos and SM, and arguably OM. Her wargears are much more cost efficient and make good answers to what your opponent throws at you (especially in late game), whereas WL's wargears are mostly increasing his potential, without creating new options (except for warpthrow). WL'll only be better in t1 if you play very aggressive.

Even against swarmy races and in spite of WL great aoe damage, FS also shines since Psychic Storm was added and guided WG are absurdly good.

Actually, since Guide is one of the best starting ability in the game, it's hard for WL or wse to compete. Not to mention FS gates are the best.

On another note, I think it's not a good idea to have a priori about mu. If you think you're favoured you might take it too easy and make mistakes, and if you think you're at a disadvantage, you'll tend to give up too quickly. Only mirrors can really be one-sided, otherwise at equal skill level any hero can beat any other one.
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Re: Strong/Weak MU 1v1

Postby Crewfinity » Sun 28 Oct, 2018 5:11 am

OM is pretty much shit against anything in this patch.

They have a few good/OP units like IST and purifiers, but ops and purgs are just fucking awful right now, which means they really dont have many options in t1.
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Re: Strong/Weak MU 1v1

Postby Telos » Fri 02 Nov, 2018 5:35 am

Asmon wrote:On another note, I think it's not a good idea to have a priori about mu. If you think you're favoured you might take it too easy and make mistakes, and if you think you're at a disadvantage, you'll tend to give up too quickly. Only mirrors can really be one-sided, otherwise at equal skill level any hero can beat any other one.


I don't necessarily disagree, but I think it's valuable to know what matchups are inherently favorable and which aren't and why. If I know a MU will be inherently unfavorable to me then I can anticipate it and perhaps come out on top. Or if I'm in a MU where I'm favored but don't know how to take advantage of that then it's kind of a waste.

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