Solution to Sniper Spam?

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Solution to Sniper Spam?

Postby Antandron » Sun 21 Jan, 2018 7:21 pm

One of the following happens:
a. Your opponent is FC and goes scout, tac, scout, Storm Shield and two snipers
b. Your Eldar opponent goes DA, Banshees, Ranger, Ranger.

Please provide solutions for as many heros as possible please as the above happens very often in 3v3 games and many people have no idea what to do. Whiplash/EM7/Step or whatever name he is under now has used about 6 Rangers successfully at times.
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Re: Solution to Sniper Spam?

Postby egewithin » Sun 21 Jan, 2018 7:38 pm

Melee, lots and lots of melee

Double ASM, Raptors, 3 hormos, banshees, 3 sluggaz, etc. So much melee that FC can't deal with it by him self
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Re: Solution to Sniper Spam?

Postby TheGoldenChicken » Mon 22 Jan, 2018 7:40 am

Only hope when playing against the king of cheese, is to go an equally cheesy style from the very beginning, and hope that your cheese will counter his
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Re: Solution to Sniper Spam?

Postby Atlas » Mon 22 Jan, 2018 8:21 am

Just slit your wrists and hope snipers get removed from the game.

But more seriously, if they invest heavily in snipers then they become much more vulnerable to out-teching. Just going fast t2 with a vehicle asap.
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Re: Solution to Sniper Spam?

Postby Schepp himself » Mon 22 Jan, 2018 8:32 am

Stop playing 3v3.

I'm serious by the way.

See you ingame, mate.

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Re: Solution to Sniper Spam?

Postby Rostam » Mon 22 Jan, 2018 9:23 am

do what i like to do :)
build 6 nade launcher tics (at least)
5 spotters is a good spam as well

but in general jump troops into lots of vehichles in t2 preferabley walkers if he goes more than 3 snipers cuz they are expensive
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Re: Solution to Sniper Spam?

Postby TheGoldenChicken » Mon 22 Jan, 2018 9:58 am

Problem is when he uses his cheese powered army to power bash you into oblivion, then he'll get to T2 before you almost no matter what
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Re: Solution to Sniper Spam?

Postby Rostam » Mon 22 Jan, 2018 11:22 am

oh yea whiplash's cheesy marine spam is really annoying
Mahror actually beat him in 1v1 which was nice (his ID was em7, same whiplash)
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Re: Solution to Sniper Spam?

Postby LOCALgHOST » Mon 22 Jan, 2018 11:41 am

kicked one mass rangers' ass lately. just go T2 and he's done
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Re: Solution to Sniper Spam?

Postby Paranoid Kamikaze » Fri 02 Feb, 2018 6:51 pm

Just be tanky and aggressive. Or fast tech for a quick vehicle. Snipers can't gen bash. The reason snipers are a problem in 3v3 is because their opponent may not know how to deal with it and lets them continually build up. They then just go around switching lanes taking out your teammates for a free win.
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Re: Solution to Sniper Spam?

Postby Oddnerd » Fri 02 Feb, 2018 8:28 pm

Just go into survival mode and try to out-tech them. Once T2 rolls around the viability of sniper-heavy builds goes down quickly.

Also just ban known sniper spammers from your lobby like I do.
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Re: Solution to Sniper Spam?

Postby Torpid » Sat 03 Feb, 2018 8:23 pm

Paranoid Kamikaze wrote:Just be tanky and aggressive. Or fast tech for a quick vehicle. Snipers can't gen bash. The reason snipers are a problem in 3v3 is because their opponent may not know how to deal with it and lets them continually build up. They then just go around switching lanes taking out your teammates for a free win.


I'd say far more room to evade them without having your gens bashed, more linear map layouts and less line of sight blockers are the main reason snipers are so broken in teams compared to 1v1.
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Re: Solution to Sniper Spam?

Postby Antandron » Wed 07 Feb, 2018 8:46 pm

My memory is a little hazy but I played against Tree1234 in a 3v3 and it turned out to be the arch cheese Meister himself. After sounding my rape alarm and warning my teammates what to expect we encountered four Rangers and two Scout Snipers. So I did the fast T2 thing and got a Razorback only to discover that a RB can`t see infiltrated Rangers. Scouts with a Sergeant are nothing but sniper fodder and once they retreat the RB can do nothing. IMO. Maybe I have missed something?

One thing I would like to know is if Devs are ever worth the 250/30 cost vs Eldar as Rangers seem to be a solid counter for 210/20.

And what justification can there be for 6 pop Rangers? Seriously.
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Re: Solution to Sniper Spam?

Postby Forestradio » Wed 07 Feb, 2018 8:55 pm

put the scouts with sarge inside the rb...
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Re: Solution to Sniper Spam?

Postby HUNTER » Wed 07 Feb, 2018 8:58 pm

Get rekt Antradon.
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Re: Solution to Sniper Spam?

Postby Antandron » Wed 07 Feb, 2018 9:05 pm

Forestradio wrote:put the scouts with sarge inside the rb...


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HUNTER wrote:Get rekt Antradon.


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Re: Solution to Sniper Spam?

Postby Telos » Thu 09 Aug, 2018 8:08 am

Hey, I'm curious what the solution to this is as Tyranids.

So far the solution I could find seems to be lots of Hormagaunts (and don't pick RA), at least 3 or even 4 squads because one will get gimped on the approach. Then try to tech to T2 asap and get a guard out. The problem is they build a setup team and park their scouts around it so gotta work out some serious outflanking if possible. If they build two setup teams then one can get a las which gimps the TG. Building any sort of range or raveners against scout spam seems like a non-starter because half the squad is dead before they're even in range. I can't build zoans because a scout mass deletes it almost immediately, so it seems like Tyrant Guard is the only real solution but there's a shit ton of ways SM and Eldar can counter that in T2...

I don't think the MU is unwinnable but it seems like you have to play a lot better against a really cheezy army.
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Re: Solution to Sniper Spam?

Postby hiveminion » Thu 09 Aug, 2018 8:26 am

2-3 Ripper swarms.

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