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Elite Mod on Steam

Postby seedofpower » Mon 01 May, 2017 1:06 am

Hello,

I don't know where to post this, so I am hoping Its okay to post it here.

I wondering why Elite mod isn't on steam? There are other Relic mods on steam for Company of Heroes. If you search Company of Heroes in steam, and filter by mod, you would get 3 results. It would be totally awesome if I could auto download updates.
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Re: Elite Mod on Steam

Postby Shroom » Mon 01 May, 2017 1:29 am

This is a really good question actually. If you subscribe to a mod from the Steam workshop it will auto-update, thus allowing fixes and micropatches etc. to be applied much faster.
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Re: Elite Mod on Steam

Postby Indrid » Mon 01 May, 2017 2:55 am

There is no Steam workshop support for DoW2 unfortunately.
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Re: Elite Mod on Steam

Postby Shroom » Mon 01 May, 2017 3:04 am

lol I never noticed that, rip.
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Re: Elite Mod on Steam

Postby seedofpower » Mon 01 May, 2017 3:24 am

There isn't workshop support for company of heroes either. That game is much older. These mods are stand alone that require the main game, just like Elite mod.
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Re: Elite Mod on Steam

Postby Garrick » Thu 04 May, 2017 1:08 pm

However there are COH Mods that can be found on steam, such as Europe at War here: http://store.steampowered.com/app/342370/

How do they work?
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Re: Elite Mod on Steam

Postby seedofpower » Sat 06 May, 2017 3:36 am

Garrick wrote:However there are COH Mods that can be found on steam, such as Europe at War here: http://store.steampowered.com/app/342370/

How do they work?


Right, I would like to know this also. I've seen mods on Steam Greenlight and they made it on steam. Relic has already sanctioned this game, I don't see why we can't just through it on Greenlight and get it on steam.
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Re: Elite Mod on Steam

Postby seedofpower » Thu 24 Aug, 2017 11:09 pm

Indrid or anyone else from the team could clarify this. It would really help out the community if this mod was on steam.
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Re: Elite Mod on Steam

Postby Atlas » Thu 31 Aug, 2017 10:56 pm

We're exploring the possibility. No promises.
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Re: Elite Mod on Steam

Postby Floid » Fri 01 Sep, 2017 8:47 pm

Good
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Re: Elite Mod on Steam

Postby seedofpower » Mon 04 Sep, 2017 12:43 am

Awesome, I think it would be really good for the community.
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Re: Elite Mod on Steam

Postby Paranoid Kamikaze » Mon 11 Sep, 2017 10:50 pm

Any progress on this? I can use my contacts I have with Relic from when I was on GR if you haven't already reached out to them.
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Re: Elite Mod on Steam

Postby Impregnable » Tue 12 Sep, 2017 3:35 am

Paranoid Kamikaze wrote:Any progress on this? I can use my contacts I have with Relic from when I was on GR if you haven't already reached out to them.


Please use that contact if you can. Don't think we have much progress in this matter.
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Re: Elite Mod on Steam

Postby Paranoid Kamikaze » Tue 12 Sep, 2017 7:02 am

I've sent him a message, but that CoH mod was put up with Greenlight. Greenlight has since been retired and now there's Steam Direct.

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/ ... =176927058
http://steamcommunity.com/games/593110/ ... 1514182595

Edit: He basically just said that it needs Steam Workshop, which the game doesn't have.
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Re: Elite Mod on Steam

Postby Atlas » Thu 14 Sep, 2017 5:16 am

From what we can tell, we might have to pay a fee and get it set up. Not sure if worth the effort, and there's legal complications.
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Re: Elite Mod on Steam

Postby Adeptus Noobus » Fri 15 Sep, 2017 8:47 am

Has anybody contacted Relic about this?
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Re: Elite Mod on Steam

Postby boss » Fri 15 Sep, 2017 11:46 am

Relic won't care at all and besides do we really want them to break this game more?
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Re: Elite Mod on Steam

Postby Adeptus Noobus » Fri 15 Sep, 2017 3:27 pm

We will need them to agree though because of aforementioned legal issues. And since this is supposed to appear on their store site...well, you get where I am coming from.
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Re: Elite Mod on Steam

Postby Myrdal » Fri 15 Sep, 2017 4:08 pm

Paranoid Kamikaze wrote:I've sent him a message, but that CoH mod was put up with Greenlight. Greenlight has since been retired and now there's Steam Direct.

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/ ... =176927058
http://steamcommunity.com/games/593110/ ... 1514182595

Edit: He basically just said that it needs Steam Workshop, which the game doesn't have.


We're considering publishing via Steam direct, which means it would turn up in the store with a new appid. Steam workshop isn't required, as you can see on the Europe at War page you linked. So afaik the concern is not a technical one but whether there's any risk of legal trouble. We definitely need to hear from Relic/Sega before moving forward imo. Also kudos to the kind donor willing to cover the $100 fee.
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Re: Elite Mod on Steam

Postby boss » Fri 15 Sep, 2017 4:35 pm

This just seems a lot of work and cost for what?
What we got right now work fine why risk this?
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Re: Elite Mod on Steam

Postby Adeptus Noobus » Fri 15 Sep, 2017 4:41 pm

It. Might bring more players to DoW as it shows that this game is far from dead? It doesn't hurt now does it?
I would be willing to pay a few bucks as well. Where would I donate?
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Re: Elite Mod on Steam

Postby Impregnable » Sat 16 Sep, 2017 3:43 am

In order to do this. We need to know 4 things.

1. Is there any legal complications for asking to relic/Sega?
ex) Can they shut down elite mod just because we asked we can post there?
- I don't think it is likely because we are not earning any money out of this thing but it is safe to know is there any chance of them shutting down elite on purpose when we ask them about this elite on steam matter.

2. If there is no threat of them shutting down this mod when we ask, We should first ask them whether we can post on it or not.
- If they say no, not much we can do.
- If they say yes you can post on steam, then we can move on to next question.

3. How much does it cost?
- Atlas and I have a certain acquaintance who can help us with donations for this if it is not overly expensive.

4. Is it technically possible?

Better start with our first question.
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Re: Elite Mod on Steam

Postby ShowMeMagik » Sun 17 Sep, 2017 8:34 am

For point one it seeks Sega/relic would hold the cards. From a little internet reading it would appear that any mod is a copyright infringement.

I guess the question is whether they are going to suffer or fear suffering financial loss.

One argument is that it will promote and sell more copies and if the modders are not making money off the IP then you would think that there would be no problems an they might support it.

The flip side is they may feel it may draw people away from other titles e.g. DOW 3 and therefore may not support it.

There is one other aspect that i can think off, and that is the inclusion of extra GW IP in the mod that wasn't in the original. Not really sure where you would stand on that one. There could be an implication for sega/relic if they are seen to be allowing unlicensed IP in a mod.

My final thought is that if they had an issue with the mod it would be shut down by now. It is clear that itbis is known by the developers. They may decide they don't want to promote it but I think it would be strange if they shut it down just for asking.

Having said all this I am no expert or have no legal training (disclaimer alert)
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Re: Elite Mod on Steam

Postby Impregnable » Sun 17 Sep, 2017 8:42 am

As long as asking do not lead to shutting down of this mod, we should ask first.
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Re: Elite Mod on Steam

Postby Adeptus Noobus » Sun 17 Sep, 2017 10:20 am

Considering that Relic (iirc) released the mod tools and helped with some stuff by providing tips back then, I doubt they will try to shutdown the mod.
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Re: Elite Mod on Steam

Postby ShowMeMagik » Sun 17 Sep, 2017 8:37 pm

I agree I find it hard to believe they would shut it down for just asking. I can't really see them having an issue but companies aren't always flexible as they have policies in place.
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Re: Elite Mod on Steam

Postby Reineke » Mon 18 Sep, 2017 9:51 pm

Relic let the eastern front mod alone even when coh2 came out. This mod is keeping The game alive. That and the failure of dow3.
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Re: Elite Mod on Steam

Postby seedofpower » Tue 19 Sep, 2017 12:46 am

Oh Snap! This thread is making me excited. I will pay the fee, I don't have a problem with that, its only 100 bucks. I am going message Kat on the Dawn of war Forums this thread. My Steam id is Seed of Power, if any of us get the legal go ahead, message me to arrange payment.
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Re: Elite Mod on Steam

Postby Atlas » Tue 19 Sep, 2017 1:38 am

It's more than just Relic, someone needs to take legal ownership of the mod and provide their tax information iirc.
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Re: Elite Mod on Steam

Postby seedofpower » Tue 19 Sep, 2017 3:49 am

Atlas wrote:It's more than just Relic, someone needs to take legal ownership of the mod and provide their tax information iirc.

Are there expenses? Other than the 100 upfront? I don't mind doing that either if no one from the dev team is going to.

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