sluggas need grenade launchers

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Re: sluggas need grenade launchers

Postby Schepp himself » Wed 04 Nov, 2020 9:17 pm

as the base weapon or an upgrade?
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Re: sluggas need grenade launchers

Postby PianoMan » Wed 04 Nov, 2020 10:42 pm

Schepp himself wrote:as the base weapon or an upgrade?

upgrade, it would serve as a counter to setup teams
seriously though having to buy stormboys just to get rekt by warshout+nade is pretty sad, especially when theres another shuri behind the first one and you cant do anything about either one of them
in other matchups you wouldn't be able to get the upgrade since sluggas serve as a melee counter

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Re: sluggas need grenade launchers

Postby LOCALgHOST » Thu 05 Nov, 2020 6:34 am

Setup team counters melee so giving melee a counter for it! ya very nice!
it could be ok if slugga melee skill drops to 50 after that upgrade. like heretics do
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Re: sluggas need grenade launchers

Postby Schepp himself » Thu 05 Nov, 2020 8:51 am

yeah, i see your point(s), but i would prefer a solution more in line with the lore like a bundle of granades they can throw for disruption (like catachanians).
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Re: sluggas need grenade launchers

Postby PianoMan » Thu 05 Nov, 2020 9:14 am

Schepp himself wrote:yeah, i see your point(s), but i would prefer a solution more in line with the lore like a bundle of granades they can throw for disruption (like catachanians).

every single league game that i've played so far as orks i'm forced to buy stormboys and just hope that they dont get the buggy bug where one of them jumps late which results in early losses most of the time or that they dont get absolutely raped by eldar nades/scout nades, having an ability like catas do would be great and actually make the matchups a little bit more skill based instead of this russian roulette bullshit
even a blind grenade so stormboys could close in a little before having to jump from maximum distance would be pretty cool and if you made the ork player lose the option to go for slugga nob in t2 there would be no balance issues
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Re: sluggas need grenade launchers

Postby Impregnable » Thu 05 Nov, 2020 10:57 am

Searched up real quick and apparently Ork Boyz on table top who is by default equipped a choppa and a slugga can actually be equipped with grenades. Therefore, lore wise won't really be a problem.
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Re: sluggas need grenade launchers

Postby OceansAteAlaska » Thu 05 Nov, 2020 11:29 am

thank god it doesnt break the lore, imagine how unplayable this game would be if we had some minor lore issues
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Re: sluggas need grenade launchers

Postby Paranoid Kamikaze » Fri 06 Nov, 2020 12:32 am

Thought the whole Ork anti-SUT thing was that their commanders all had counters so it wasn't just Stormboyz. Mek can teleport, Knob can stealth and throw grenades, Warboss can charge through it.
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Re: sluggas need grenade launchers

Postby Shroom » Fri 06 Nov, 2020 6:10 am

OceansAteAlaska wrote:thank god it doesnt break the lore, imagine how unplayable this game would be if we had some minor lore issues

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Re: sluggas need grenade launchers

Postby PianoMan » Fri 06 Nov, 2020 8:38 am

Paranoid Kamikaze wrote:Thought the whole Ork anti-SUT thing was that their commanders all had counters so it wasn't just Stormboyz. Mek can teleport, Knob can stealth and throw grenades, Warboss can charge through it.

stunbomb travel speed is too slow and the grenade is too unreliable from long range, mek cannot teleport into 2 shuris or a PC nest unless you have some extra 250 req to spare and charging into setup teams with a hero that can be supressed doesnt exactly work
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Re: sluggas need grenade launchers

Postby GuruSkippy » Fri 06 Nov, 2020 9:24 am

PianoMan wrote:
Paranoid Kamikaze wrote:Thought the whole Ork anti-SUT thing was that their commanders all had counters so it wasn't just Stormboyz. Mek can teleport, Knob can stealth and throw grenades, Warboss can charge through it.

and the grenade is too unreliable from long range

I asked for a fix for that in discord 2 days ago, since it doesn't stun a full squad anymore, it was accepted.

and WB kustom shoota is a better counter to suts than charge wich can be a death sentence.
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Re: sluggas need grenade launchers

Postby Asmon » Fri 06 Nov, 2020 6:47 pm

I'm a bit amazed at people replying seriously to this thread.

But since we're at it: WB Boss Pole counters suppression much better than any charge. If we want to be even more specifif, steps are:
1) Advance one shoota squad and use Aiming? Wotz Dat?
2) A-move with WB in front
3) Profit.
4) Repeat with the second shoota squad if there are 2 setup teams.
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Re: sluggas need grenade launchers

Postby PianoMan » Fri 06 Nov, 2020 7:29 pm

Asmon wrote:I'm a bit amazed at people replying seriously to this thread.

But since we're at it: WB Boss Pole counters suppression much better than any charge. If we want to be even more specifif, steps are:
1) Advance one shoota squad and use Aiming? Wotz Dat?
2) A-move with WB in front
3) Profit.
4) Repeat with the second shoota squad if there are 2 setup teams.

ok sorry im just the #1 warboss player

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