TE | NoSkill wrote:
It is an bigger risk tho getting AC up, exspecially on CSM, because they are not so tanky and Chaos has only decent support at best, so playing offensively is a bit harder. Also the squad doesn t have an upgrade for which the AC could be needed. And slaughter is not usable anymore, if unit is marked. So they are somewhat useless in the lategame, can t even faster cap like tacs.
Having tougher AC´s would allow to play a bit more offensively while fit the theme of Chaos
Melee skill buff would set CSM apart and allow them to benefit more from melee combat for beeing
a) squishier
b) having higher melee damage
And regarding MoK; They are there to tie up ranged units and are no melee brawlers??? The Mark is effectively worse then slaughter! No higher melee skill nor damage output nor an bigger charge range!
It is more raptor style to attack weaker( ranged) targets, so why are MoK Marines regarded only as mop up unit?
Chaos Lord can scythe through infantry preatty well indeed, but not beeing able to threaten vehicles is a bit pathetic and leavs an big hole in the CSM roster. I mean, it makes the CL a lot less useful AND makes the weapon choices worse, for I only saw ppl get it for sweeping doom in case of massive blobz.
And I meant, that the "Instill fear" should happen on kill then.
Indeed AC on raptors can threaten vehicles. That takes a long enough time tho (except on manticores) and an player aware of his vehicles can doge them effectively. That is like saying Vanguard veterans don t need an powerfist, they already do enough damage.
And again as I said, it would fit the chaos theme; a few strong individuals (AC) followed by weaker ones. Would set the focus better on the indvidualistic style of chaos.
PS: Why have heretics 75 melee skill?
AC on Tzeentch marines = 33% damage buff, go figure
MoK CSM are fine, Chaos is already superior to any race in melee combat, what more do you want?
Yes, CL can't hit tanks, whats the deal? He is already really strong by him self, and has even more potential with his wargear
Raptors can take down Razorback, Chimeras and Wartrukks really fast, without geting an AV unit