2.7 Proposal - Autarch Fusion gun

Issues dealing with gameplay balance.
User avatar
Torpid
Moderator
Posts: 3536
Joined: Sat 01 Jun, 2013 12:09 pm
Location: England, Leeds

2.7 Proposal - Autarch Fusion gun

Postby Torpid » Tue 25 Apr, 2017 3:47 am

Keeping this one simple.

What to do with it?

It so is underwhelming donig less dps than the TM's melta when it is in T3. Barely any extra range.

Do we buff the range? Buff the damage? Change the price? Make it T2? Add a mechanic so you can swap between the executioner spear and the fusion gun like tacs (or for free like a hero if you bought it)?

Or do nothing?

Quick suggestions please!

It does 33dps atm for 80/20. Tm melta does 41dps for 100/25.
Lets make Ordo Malleus great again!
Atlas

Re: 2.7 Proposal - Autarch Fusion gun

Postby Atlas » Tue 25 Apr, 2017 3:48 am

I'm fine with just trying it out at T2 and seeing if that does it. Don't forget that it's 100% fotm and the Autarch is all kinds of fast.
User avatar
Oddnerd
Level 4
Posts: 727
Joined: Mon 27 Oct, 2014 1:50 am

Re: 2.7 Proposal - Autarch Fusion gun

Postby Oddnerd » Tue 25 Apr, 2017 5:05 am

I think making it available T2 is worth a shot. By T3 it feels like too little too late.

I also think that buffing its stats is dangerous, since it could be problematic to have too strong of an AV weapon on the most mobile subcommander in the game.
User avatar
Shroom
Level 2
Posts: 174
Joined: Sat 12 Mar, 2016 12:01 pm

Re: 2.7 Proposal - Autarch Fusion gun

Postby Shroom » Tue 25 Apr, 2017 6:29 am

I don't think this change is needed. As Atlas said she is fast, with a base of 7.5 Then she can jump, giving her extra chase potential from the jump alone, not mentioning the additional +1 speed and +20% damage she gets after jumping. Eldar have so much AV and soft AV in tier 2, I don't think they need any more.
User avatar
Adeptus Noobus
Level 4
Posts: 991
Joined: Sat 15 Feb, 2014 12:47 pm
Contact:

Re: 2.7 Proposal - Autarch Fusion gun

Postby Adeptus Noobus » Tue 25 Apr, 2017 8:55 am

To be totally honest: Just remove the weapon. Her mobility would turn her into a T2 lightning-fast Fire Dragon which can also jump. It creates so many internal balance issues with the changes that Caeltos made to the Eldar faction it would be better to just remove it. The Autarch is completely fine with her melee weapon upgrade alone. No need to turn her into a Elite Firedragon. Just imagine a T2 Fusion Gun Autarch with either Crackshot, Guide or Enhance. You already can't build transports vs Eldar no more since they get disintegrated. Let's not add to that.
User avatar
Torpid
Moderator
Posts: 3536
Joined: Sat 01 Jun, 2013 12:09 pm
Location: England, Leeds

Re: 2.7 Proposal - Autarch Fusion gun

Postby Torpid » Tue 25 Apr, 2017 5:42 pm

I can't say that makes any one decision stand out as the best option xD
Lets make Ordo Malleus great again!
User avatar
Indrid
Moderator
Posts: 898
Joined: Mon 04 Feb, 2013 5:06 pm
Location: London
Contact:

Re: 2.7 Proposal - Autarch Fusion gun

Postby Indrid » Tue 25 Apr, 2017 5:59 pm

T2 and 125/30.
Phoenix
Moderator
Posts: 137
Joined: Wed 13 Nov, 2013 2:58 am

Re: 2.7 Proposal - Autarch Fusion gun

Postby Phoenix » Tue 25 Apr, 2017 11:33 pm

Remove fusion gun and give her a 50/10 melta pistol side arm upgrade akin to the Raptor AC. :twisted:
User avatar
Forestradio
Level 5
Posts: 1157
Joined: Sun 13 Oct, 2013 5:09 pm

Re: 2.7 Proposal - Autarch Fusion gun

Postby Forestradio » Tue 25 Apr, 2017 11:48 pm

Phoenix wrote:Remove fusion gun and give her a 50/10 melta pistol side arm upgrade akin to the Raptor AC. :twisted:

ye cuz a sidearm totally works with the executioner
Atlas

Re: 2.7 Proposal - Autarch Fusion gun

Postby Atlas » Wed 26 Apr, 2017 12:03 am

So the answers are all over the place. My favorite kind of feedback! Kappa
Alright, this sounds tougher than I thought it would be.
User avatar
Ace of Swords
Level 5
Posts: 1493
Joined: Thu 14 Mar, 2013 7:49 am
Location: Terra

Re: 2.7 Proposal - Autarch Fusion gun

Postby Ace of Swords » Wed 26 Apr, 2017 12:59 am

Eldar has already got a retarded amount of cheap cross AV that can double as anti infantry, even the brightlance has a mode to be helpful against inf and particularly single entities, they don't need more of this, so if anything gets changed would be making the fusion gun buyable in t2 and nothing else.
Image
User avatar
Torpid
Moderator
Posts: 3536
Joined: Sat 01 Jun, 2013 12:09 pm
Location: England, Leeds

Re: 2.7 Proposal - Autarch Fusion gun

Postby Torpid » Wed 26 Apr, 2017 3:55 am

Indrid wrote:T2 and 125/30.


I like this proposal the best tbh.
Lets make Ordo Malleus great again!

Return to “Balance Discussion”



Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 31 guests