Chaos Shrine of Tzeentch

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Chaos Shrine of Tzeentch

Postby B'orn » Mon 20 Sep, 2021 11:45 am

Здравствуйте!
Возник вопрос по работе Chaos Shrine of Tzeentch.
Если верить кодексу, то у Shrine of Tzeentch есть 2 эффекта:
1) Chaos Shrine Aura. The energy regeneration of daemons within radius 30 is increased by 5 per second.
2) Tzeentch Shrine Aura. Fires doombolts, which deal 25 plasma damage in a radius 4, at enemies within a radius 44 every 10 seconds, reduces incoming damage by 10% and reduces incoming courage damage by 20%. Worship doubles the rate of fire.

У еретиков есть такой эффект от молитвы:
Worship (Tzeentch)
Sends the Heretics into an unholy veneration of the Dark Gods. Your units in radius 35 become infiltrated, while your daemons also have their health regeneration increased by 10 hp/s and energy regeneration increased by 1.5 e/s. Heretics are disabled while worshipping. Partially detected units take 20% less ranged damage.

Я заметил, что, если демоны попадают одновременно под эффект от молитвы от еретиков и от Shrine of Tzeentch, то их энергия восстанавливается со скоростью 1.5 e/s, а не 5 per second. То есть эффект простой молитвы еретиков заменяет более сильный эффект от Shrine of Tzeentch.

Возникло несколько вопросов по механике:
1) Как именно взаимодействуют эффекты от Shrine of Tzeentch и Worship (Tzeentch) друг с другом?
2) Правильно, что более сильная регенерация энергии заменяется на более слабую?

Я не владею английским языком в достаточной степени, поэтому ниже машинный перевод на английский язык.
I don't speak English enough, so the following is a machine translation into English.

Hello!
There was a question about the work of Chaos Shrine of Tzeentch.
If you believe the codex, then the Shrine of Tzeentch has 2 effects:
1) Chaos Shrine Aura. The energy regeneration of daemons within radius 30 is increased by 5 per second.
2) Tzeentch Shrine Aura. Fires doombolts, which deal 25 plasma damage in a radius 4, at enemies within a radius 44 every 10 seconds, reduces incoming damage by 10% and reduces incoming courage damage by 20%. Worship doubles the rate of fire.

Heretics have this effect of prayer:
Worship (Tzeentch)
Sends the Heretics into an unholy veneration of the Dark Gods. Your units in radius 35 become infiltrated, while your daemons also have their health regeneration increased by 10 hp/s and energy regeneration increased by 1.5 e/s. Heretics are disabled while worshipping. Partially detected units take 20% less ranged damage.

I noticed that if demons are simultaneously affected by the effect of a prayer from heretics and from the Shrine of Tzeentch, then their energy is restored at a rate of 1.5 e/s, and not 5 per second. That is, the effect of a simple heretic prayer replaces the stronger effect of the Shrine of Tzeentch.

There were several questions about the mechanics:
1) How exactly do the effects of Shrine of Tzeentch and Worship (Tzeentch) interact with each other?
2) Is it correct that a stronger energy regeneration is replaced by a weaker one?
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Re: Chaos Shrine of Tzeentch

Postby LOCALgHOST » Mon 20 Sep, 2021 3:06 pm

never heard of energy regen

always thought that tzeench shrine gives 20% damage resistance, not energy regen
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Re: Chaos Shrine of Tzeentch

Postby B'orn » Mon 20 Sep, 2021 3:23 pm

LOCALgHOST wrote:never heard of energy regen

always thought that tzeench shrine gives 20% damage resistance, not energy regen


Shrine of Tzeentch only gives a 10% reduction in incoming damage. 20% is the resistance to suppression. If I understand correctly. Also, the Shrine of Tzeentch gives energy regeneration to demons 5 per second (this is in the game, you can check for yourself). Worship (Tzeentch) gives a 20% reduction in incoming ranged damage, and also gives 10 hp regeneration per second and 1.5 energy per second. How do these damage reduction effects stack up? Why does the effect of hp and energy regeneration from Worship (Tzeentch) completely replace the effect of energy regeneration from the Shrine of Tzeentch, and not partially add up with it.

Shrine of Tzeentch дает только 10% снижения входящего урона. 20% это сопротивление подавлению. Если я правильно понимаю. Также Shrine of Tzeentch дает регенерацию энергии демонам 5 в секунду (это есть в игре, можешь проверить сам). Worship (Tzeentch) дает 20% снижение входящего дальнобойного урона, а также дает регенерацию hp 10 в секунду и 1,5 энергии в секунду. Как складываются эти эффекты снижения урона? Почему эффект регенерации хп и энергии от Worship (Tzeentch) полностью заменяет эффект регенерации энергии от Shrine of Tzeentch, а не частично складывается с ним.
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Re: Chaos Shrine of Tzeentch

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