Tips/Advice for starting a new Mod?
- Private Hix
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Tips/Advice for starting a new Mod?
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Hello,
I am starting to create my own mod for DoW 2: Retribution introducing 1-2 new races. Any modders here have any tips and/or advice for someone starting out in modding for Dawn of War? I've done modding in a few games before so there are many things that are familiar, but a lot of other things that aren't haha.
Hello,
I am starting to create my own mod for DoW 2: Retribution introducing 1-2 new races. Any modders here have any tips and/or advice for someone starting out in modding for Dawn of War? I've done modding in a few games before so there are many things that are familiar, but a lot of other things that aren't haha.
Re: Tips/Advice for starting a new Mod?
Do you have the models to add new races?
- Private Hix
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Re: Tips/Advice for starting a new Mod?
Oddnerd wrote:Do you have the models to add new races?
I've got just a few at the moment, I am mostly in the concept art stage for the rest right now. I am in college for 3D Animation and I have done work on a few other mods so I know the process from concept art --> rigged & animated character. I need practice in texturing, but not anything that won't come with some time and hard work.
Re: Tips/Advice for starting a new Mod?
nice idea mate . may be u should talk to caeltos about it . asking the moderators in person is a good idea
and welcome to the community
and welcome to the community
“Everyone thinks of changing the world, but no one thinks of changing himself.” Leon Tolstoy
- Private Hix
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Re: Tips/Advice for starting a new Mod?
Rostam313 wrote:nice idea mate . may be u should talk to caeltos about it . asking the moderators in person is a good idea
and welcome to the community
Ah thank you! Glad to be here
I was wondering who I could contact about modding stuff, thanks a lot! Anyone else that would be willing to help me if I run into any issues and I PM them?
Re: Tips/Advice for starting a new Mod?
I think if u get to know around these forums and steam community u can get lots of help and it is productive in general for every one and helps the community
below is the link to elite mod team members,Administrators and moderators (work on these forums and u11 get results and answers)
no harm in asking around
memberlist.php?mode=team
godspeed
below is the link to elite mod team members,Administrators and moderators (work on these forums and u11 get results and answers)
no harm in asking around
memberlist.php?mode=team
godspeed
“Everyone thinks of changing the world, but no one thinks of changing himself.” Leon Tolstoy
- ShowMeMagik
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Re: Tips/Advice for starting a new Mod?
Sounds like a lot of work on a game that unfortunately isn't what it was. With DoW3 coming out are you going to get the player Base to make your mod popular?
Sorry to be negative but wouldn't want you to do all the work for a game that may not be played in 6-12 months.
Why not speak with the team about what you might be able to contribute to this mod. Get some experience before modding DoW3
Sorry to be negative but wouldn't want you to do all the work for a game that may not be played in 6-12 months.
Why not speak with the team about what you might be able to contribute to this mod. Get some experience before modding DoW3
Re: Tips/Advice for starting a new Mod?
ShowMeMagik wrote:Sounds like a lot of work on a game that unfortunately isn't what it was. With DoW3 coming out are you going to get the player Base to make your mod popular?
Sorry to be negative but wouldn't want you to do all the work for a game that may not be played in 6-12 months.
Why not speak with the team about what you might be able to contribute to this mod. Get some experience before modding DoW3
actually I think your last sentence is a very good advice .
“Everyone thinks of changing the world, but no one thinks of changing himself.” Leon Tolstoy
Re: Tips/Advice for starting a new Mod?
@ShowMeMagik
I think he's doing it more to practise his skills to be able to employ that experience in a work environment.
He's not looking to make a popular mod. But probably likes 40K/DoW2 and decided that's where he starts practising.
Always goes better to work with something you like.
I think he's doing it more to practise his skills to be able to employ that experience in a work environment.
He's not looking to make a popular mod. But probably likes 40K/DoW2 and decided that's where he starts practising.
Always goes better to work with something you like.
- Private Hix
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Re: Tips/Advice for starting a new Mod?
Dark Riku wrote:@ShowMeMagik
He's not looking to make a popular mod. But probably likes 40K/DoW2 and decided that's where he starts practising.
Always goes better to work with something you like.
That's exactly what I'm doing. By the time my mod is finished who knows how many people will still be playing haha, but I just want to get my characters in-game so I can interact with them.
ShowMeMagik wrote:Sounds like a lot of work on a game that unfortunately isn't what it was. With DoW3 coming out are you going to get the player Base to make your mod popular?
Sorry to be negative but wouldn't want you to do all the work for a game that may not be played in 6-12 months.
Why not speak with the team about what you might be able to contribute to this mod. Get some experience before modding DoW3
I totally understand, but the main reason I'm doing this is for my own enjoyment. I have a large list of characters that I have created/planned and I'd like to be able to see them alive in some form. The brutality and animations in DoW: Ret just fits these characters so well, whereas I dont think they would fit/be worth my time in DoW 3. (A lot of that reason is that there are no sync-kills, as well as the general feel of the gameplay thus far)
On a side note, it would be amazing if anyone could help me out with this thread I posted in the Modding forum:
viewtopic.php?f=12&p=60763#p60763
Re: Tips/Advice for starting a new Mod?
Private Hix wrote:Dark Riku wrote:@ShowMeMagik
He's not looking to make a popular mod. But probably likes 40K/DoW2 and decided that's where he starts practising.
Always goes better to work with something you like.
That's exactly what I'm doing. By the time my mod is finished who knows how many people will still be playing haha, but I just want to get my characters in-game so I can interact with them.ShowMeMagik wrote:Sounds like a lot of work on a game that unfortunately isn't what it was. With DoW3 coming out are you going to get the player Base to make your mod popular?
Sorry to be negative but wouldn't want you to do all the work for a game that may not be played in 6-12 months.
Why not speak with the team about what you might be able to contribute to this mod. Get some experience before modding DoW3
I totally understand, but the main reason I'm doing this is for my own enjoyment. I have a large list of characters that I have created/planned and I'd like to be able to see them alive in some form. The brutality and animations in DoW: Ret just fits these characters so well, whereas I dont think they would fit/be worth my time in DoW 3. (A lot of that reason is that there are no sync-kills, as well as the general feel of the gameplay thus far)
On a side note, it would be amazing if anyone could help me out with this thread I posted in the Modding forum:
viewtopic.php?f=12&p=60763#p60763
Wow . now that is wat i call passion . a month ago i had some request from moderators to put my you tube cast's links into this announcement . i contacted moderators personally in steam and forums and it actually took me a while to achieve my goal . i strongly suggest u contact those guys individually and ask about ur problem . i will talk to some of them ; i will see if they can do something for u . but u do the same,specially caeltos (since i dont have him in steam) he pretty much built this mod
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- Private Hix
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Re: Tips/Advice for starting a new Mod?
Rostam313 wrote:Wow . now that is wat i call passion . a month ago i had some request from moderators to put my you tube cast's links into this announcement . i contacted moderators personally in steam and forums and it actually took me a while to achieve my goal . i strongly suggest u contact those guys individually and ask about ur problem . i will talk to some of them ; i will see if they can do something for u . but u do the same,specially caeltos (since i dont have him in steam) he pretty much built this mod
Thank you so much man! It's going to be a lot of work but I know it will be worth it.
I contacted a bunch of people, nice to get the ball rolling Thank you for all your help.
Re: Tips/Advice for starting a new Mod?
Here is a list of suggested exercises to learn the file structure. These involve coding rather than creating new models or animations but will teach how to get your stuff into the game.
1. Add an extra scout to the scout squad. Make sure you adjust the number of weapons for the base squad and also for shotgun upgrade
2. You are probably past this but change the helmet on the tac sarge for a new modded version
3. Add an entirely new squad. I suggest a single model squad like a chaos sub hero (I think Shuma' war room has a model you can use)
-- add abilities, you can copy other abilities but rename them so they are specific to your new squad. One each of a entity based ability and a squad based ability
-- add an upgrade
-- make the squad able to repair
4. Double pop cap, double pop threshold and double income from all sources
1. Add an extra scout to the scout squad. Make sure you adjust the number of weapons for the base squad and also for shotgun upgrade
2. You are probably past this but change the helmet on the tac sarge for a new modded version
3. Add an entirely new squad. I suggest a single model squad like a chaos sub hero (I think Shuma' war room has a model you can use)
-- add abilities, you can copy other abilities but rename them so they are specific to your new squad. One each of a entity based ability and a squad based ability
-- add an upgrade
-- make the squad able to repair
4. Double pop cap, double pop threshold and double income from all sources
- Black Relic
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Re: Tips/Advice for starting a new Mod?
If you want I could use some of your skill.
Would you be troubled if I requested you to making buildings with construction animations and when they are building something they have an animation when doing that as well??
Like a Chapel Barrack-ish type of building that when spawned its a box that automatically formed into the building and then have an animation i can reference when it's building something (like a suppression animation so we could easily find and reference the animation) so it would do a small construction thingy like a moving part and flashing lights when even its constructing.
And if you are curious about my mod to give a simple explanation is my vision of dow 3 before the trailers came out. Brings back a small amount of base building via forward base points, supply lines, SOME destructible terrain in the form or bridges, hazardous areas in the map and some area that are identifiable with fairly heavy smoke or lots of grass infiltrate your units. New points like stratagems that offer certain bonuses and abilities to the player when captured (of course those abilities cost red for more powerful versions), generators that power turrets that shoot at the enemy (but can be disabled by destroying a nearby generator (yea i know lack of models) or shooting the turret until it's low enough to keep it from shooting) and a tower that can disrupt enemy req income rate however it can be destroyed. Among other things but that's most of the things that are really big.
Would you be troubled if I requested you to making buildings with construction animations and when they are building something they have an animation when doing that as well??
Like a Chapel Barrack-ish type of building that when spawned its a box that automatically formed into the building and then have an animation i can reference when it's building something (like a suppression animation so we could easily find and reference the animation) so it would do a small construction thingy like a moving part and flashing lights when even its constructing.
And if you are curious about my mod to give a simple explanation is my vision of dow 3 before the trailers came out. Brings back a small amount of base building via forward base points, supply lines, SOME destructible terrain in the form or bridges, hazardous areas in the map and some area that are identifiable with fairly heavy smoke or lots of grass infiltrate your units. New points like stratagems that offer certain bonuses and abilities to the player when captured (of course those abilities cost red for more powerful versions), generators that power turrets that shoot at the enemy (but can be disabled by destroying a nearby generator (yea i know lack of models) or shooting the turret until it's low enough to keep it from shooting) and a tower that can disrupt enemy req income rate however it can be destroyed. Among other things but that's most of the things that are really big.
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- Private Hix
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Re: Tips/Advice for starting a new Mod?
Black Relic wrote:If you want I could use some of your skill.
Would you be troubled if I requested you to making buildings with construction animations and when they are building something they have an animation when doing that as well??
Like a Chapel Barrack-ish type of building that when spawned its a box that automatically formed into the building and then have an animation i can reference when it's building something (like a suppression animation so we could easily find and reference the animation) so it would do a small construction thingy like a moving part and flashing lights when even its constructing.
You meant this for me right? I could draw up some concept sketches, I'll need some more info though.
I'll PM you about the deets.
Re: Tips/Advice for starting a new Mod?
Did u make any progress on your mod?
havent heard from u in a while
it has been about 10 month now
havent heard from u in a while
it has been about 10 month now
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