Bugs/Issues Thread

[Lulgrim]

http://i.imgur.com/3RG9yl5.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/8ho9PVE.jpg

Ok, how's this for a fix - now you can still target the tower anywhere (doesn't block targeting cursor), but the space will be checked and the tower spawned on legit ground.




Fix acceptable?

[Dark Riku]

BRO! Do this for drop pods too please!
Sometimes it takes so freaking long to find a legit place for them to drop just to lose your squad before it drops down.

[Nuclear Arbitor]

i know what you mean about having problems placing them; haven't lost a squad because of it but there have been multiple occasions when i couldn't place a pod in what appeared to be a perfectly viable location. same issue with gates but don't change them please; location is important.

[FiSH]

In Argus Desert Gate, the garrison next to the contested VP is rather annoying when playing as nids, because spore mine detonation doesn't hurt anything inside.
Do people think this is something that should be changed?

Also, on a related issue, some maps have small garrisons where doomblast can seriously hurt squads inside. Is this something that is ok?

[Asmon]

Fish, best nids anti-garrison are BS Warriors and Zoans. Spores mines won't reach units inside buildings whose windows are too high, similarly to grenades (in a lesser extent though).

On the bug part: I believe Falcons still cannot hit transports with units inside.

[Lulgrim]

On the bug part: I believe Falcons still cannot hit transports with units inside.

Maybe that's related to Zoans not snaring loaded transports?

In Argus Desert Gate, the garrison next to the contested VP is rather annoying when playing as nids, because spore mine detonation doesn't hurt anything inside.

Probably it's just so big the splash can't reach models inside.

[Nuclear Arbitor]

i think falcons can hit loaded transports but i haven't tried it... fuck this game is buggy.

stuns seem to cause issues with transports though. i had some storm boyz jump my falcon and it froze up and had a very large but very faint stun swirl around it. i know that stuns from burrow traps effect units inside transports and the snares stack. found that out the hard way...

[Spartan717]

Just a bug a I noticed. The baneblade's 'fire demolisher canon' ability doesn't hit the targeted area when it is lower ground/higher ground. The bullet just goes past the targeted area.

Another issue is that if there is a structure in between the baneblade and the targeted location for the demolisher canon, the bullet would hit a building (i.e. poles and other non destructible buildings) and blow up, hence failing to hit target.

[Nuclear Arbitor]

that's a projectile issue. grenades have the to far/to close issue and missiles, plasma, and the like have the same issue with terrain.

[Asmon]

i think falcons can hit loaded transports but i haven't tried it... fuck this game is buggy.

No they definitively can not. You can watch Indrid's last Eldar vs Ork videos for confirmation

And yes Lulgrim, it is likely linked to the zoan issue with transports.

[Dark Riku]

Just a bug a I noticed. The baneblade's 'fire demolisher canon' ability doesn't hit the targeted area when it is lower ground/higher ground. The bullet just goes past the targeted area.

Another issue is that if there is a structure in between the baneblade and the targeted location for the demolisher canon, the bullet would hit a building (i.e. poles and other non destructible buildings) and blow up, hence failing to hit target.

That's not a bug. Just how the game works.

[Spartan717]

Not sure if intentional but, the artillery squad's abilities all work even if they are retreating.

[PanKiller]

Sorcerers teleport doesnt worked when i was retreating ) tried to teleport ally dread , red cost but no effect ) .

[Kvek]

It doesn't work even if you are not in retreat. I think it's not intended to warp out allies unit. Can you make it like a painboy heal ? Can be used only on ur own units. Right now it just eats the energy and doesn't warp out ur teammate's unit

[TomastheTankEngine]

The IG execute bug has been fixed.
- Execute will only effect the targeted squad.
- Execute will only stop units in retreat, squad with orders will still carry them out after an execution

[Lag]

Praise the Emperor! You make this Commissar very happy.

[Spartan717]

After activating the infiltration ability for inquisitorial stormies and then sprint, they come out of infiltration but still lose mana during the duration of the sprint ability as if they were still infiltrated. Similarly, activating sprint and then infiltration won't cause the squad to infiltrate until the sprint ability wears off, but still drain mana during sprint duration.

[Nuclear Arbitor]

that's a bug with infiltration and abilities activating. same thing with cloaking in a gate and then using fof.

[TomastheTankEngine]

- Chaos Sorcerer's Warp global does not function when the Sorcerer is retreating; red is lost
- You can target allied units with the Chaos Sorcerer's Warp global but it does not function; red is lost

How should they behave? Should the global work when Sorcerer is retreating? Should you be able to target allied units?

I can look this problem later this week.

[Dark Riku]

How should they behave? Should the global work when Sorcerer is retreating? Should you be able to target allied units?

I can look this problem later this week.

Yes on retreat. Maybe on allies. Better ask Caeltos that ^^

[Lulgrim]

The targeting was changed to include 'allied' on purpose at some point, but the ability didn't have an effect on them... However now that I look at the ability, it should currently be usable on 'own' only, I don't know why it even allows targeting allied. Anyway, once I change the condition it should teleport the allied targets.

Can't say why it doesn't work when Sorc is retreating... Did it do that in retail?

[Asmon]

In retail it does work when the sorcerer is retreating. I believe it does not in elite because the spell requires the CS to play an animation.

[TomastheTankEngine]

In retail it does work when the sorcerer is retreating. I believe it does not in elite because the spell requires the CS to play an animation.

If sorcerer requires an animation to play it is likely the retreat is blocking the animation and causing ability to fail. Possible modding solutions:

- Remove the animation and add a delay (if needed) then invoke teleport.
- First stop the sorcerer out of retreat and then teleport. (similar to guardsmen execute) Maybe start the retreat again.
- Grey out the global if the sorcerer is in retreat.
- Test if the sorcerer is in retreat if true invoke delay else invoke animation then teleport.

[FiSH]

I was watching a replay, and the Kdread was definitely teleported out while the sorc was in retreat. (have replay)
Maybe there were other issues at the time?

also, Lulgrim, extension .rec is not allowed for attachments, is it possible to remove that?

[FiSH]

sweet, here is the replay. ~20mins in, the kdread is teleported out to a retreating sorc.

[Lulgrim]

The targeting issue is fixed now - allied units will teleport. I also tested the retreat behavior and Warp will work when used on a retreating unit, when used during Sorcerer's retreat, and when used right before retreating Sorcerer.

[Asmon]

It just came back to my mind that WS exarch's (I'm not talking about WSE) special attacks still KB allied units. They are quite rare so perhaps they have been fixed already, but I don't think so. Perhaps they even KB in retreat, I believe it needs checking.

[Lulgrim]

Yes it had friendly fire on specials. Just weapon knockback, though. Fixed it.

[Kvek]

It just came back to my mind that WS exarch's (I'm not talking about WSE) special attacks still KB allied units. They are quite rare so perhaps they have been fixed already, but I don't think so. Perhaps they even KB in retreat, I believe it needs checking.

Elderp....

[Myrdal]

This might have been mentioned but there's a nasty glitch with sternguard getting stuck in ammo changing state. The trigger seems to be when the sarge is killed during the ammo switch. Once locked in this state (showing the up arrow icon) only ATSKNF can be used and squad cannot fire their bolters.