No replay to show, but I'm pretty sure I saw when psychic lash (Brother-Captain) kills a model, cooldown is reset. Will test soon

Farseer + Apo = infinite heals + guided, combat stimmed seer council/termis

Forgive me, but I'm no ork player, I was just wondering what is the role of flash gitz? They seem abit niche (and dare I say, underused?)

I'm not going to get in the middle of this, but perhaps mods could move this to the strategy section if Black Maw wishes to find solutions to what can be done in response to a particular situation or achieve a particular playstyle?

I am NOT saying they need a buff or something. I am saying that, Champion deserves the prize without any marks, but when he gets a mark , he doesn't add any differenceses and even some weakneses so why is the prize ? And now, for the guys are not able to understand even a simple sentence, I will TR...

Chaos spike damage comes from presenting new threats (in the form of upgrades and new units) to the enemy to reckon with I think. An engagement you previously won against csm without eternal war vs ones with can turn quite differently. Surprise double autocannons from sorc infiltration is pretty pai...

Soooo... new OM hero please? With awesome globals? Maybe a unique nuke?

Purifier justicar casts psychic field repeatedly if knocked down whilst in animation. Damage appears to stack in that area of nope.

To bring it back to OM vs Eldar, in T2 the strike squad justicar can energy burst the banshees to prevent from coming in for a little while, how significant is this?. Also, is one DR (along with the stuff in t1) sufficient to stop say purifiers with Ward (with a charging BC too)

I'm not too sure about the time, but I'm quite certain the costs should not be directly reduced to 9 and 6 respectively to take into account of the chances of over-reinforcing. The example I thought of is: currently, with one leader, the probability of over-reinforcing once is 20% (by my estimates)...

I guess that would be possible? Would mean their reinforce time would also need to go down or they would reinforce slower. With 1 leader to 1,2 secs per model and with 2 leaders to 0.8 secs per model. With 1 leader it should cost 9 req per model and with 2 it should be 6 req per model. Would be a b...

Another unforeseen consequence of the engine is that if you have a GM squad with sergeant and commissar next to a chimera or medibunker, and you reinforce guardsmen faster than they're killed, you're usually paying far more than in theory. Say your guardsmen get one model killed and you reinforce i...

Is there going to be another one to cover 2.5.1?

Because purgs are being purchased in T1 and are scaling beautifully into T2, I think that the rhino las cannon needs to have a much more penalizing purchase cost. I'm agreeing almost exclusively with the camp that says the vindicare assassin is completely obsolete this patch. Also, on a chaos note,...

MaxPower wrote:

Crewfinity wrote:Razorback:
costs 380/90, speed 8, 600 health, 55 piercing dps, smoke grenade, 40 seconds to build

It only costs 60 power not 90...just saying.

He included the extra armour upgrade.

Nid: Neurothrope and Zoan range reduced to 40. (These potent artillery pieces should rely on the rest of the nid army to gain vision for their shots, or ground target.) Rippers and Spore Mines reduced visison to 30. (Left alone, these units should have a tricky time finding targets.) All other unit...

I have a question for the OM dread; when to get the plasma cannon or flamer? Either default or melee seems to have a much more applicable role.
And when is the LRC most useful?

The other thing I like about him is his small foot print. I try to keep him under a tree or near objects and alot of times people don't seem to notice him. A great option and almost always build. He is nearly as stealthy as a beamy loota from FoW, better when he is out of range and no one shoots hi...

Lesten wrote:

Dark Riku wrote:All detection leaders are die last models...

I don't think DA exarchs die last. (Could be wrong, haven't played 2.5 that much yet.)

Nope, most definitely not die last. Except that they have 2x (or so) the hp of a DA model, still not that much though.

Thunderhost wrote:Zoanthrope has 0 melee damage iirc.

Then it counts as not being able to fight in melee, like neurothrope and spore mines?

Spotters perhaps? 3 models, 2 melee dps, 600 hp total

Crewfinity wrote:whoa yeah that sucks
give interceptors back their AV capability plz

Owait, so now interceptors are teleporting Tzeentch marines with pseudo slaughter (melee capability)? Abuse time

- What is with the Psylencers and inferno damage? And Interceptors getting 3 of these is just awkward. Can any one confirm this? It may be that interceptor psycannons were tied to strike's "psycannons" and are now psilencers. I tested it on AI game and it seems that interceptor psycannons...

On paper, Phase Shift was a versatile tool to be used in a variety of interesting ways. In practice, it was/is so outrageously good as a combo for Eldritch or Dcannon that any other uses seemed wasteful. It's possible that the change to remove the toxic elements of it will leave it in an under-powe...

Good god i'm an idiot, thanks

DandyFrontline wrote:

Aetherion wrote:Sorry but are there any more detailed/concrete patch notes to go on other than the WIP? Or am I just missing something?
Like where did this quote come from?

Deflaktor wrote:

https://www.dawnofwar.info/forum/viewto ... f=6&t=2385 - in 'general'

Sorry but are there any more detailed/concrete patch notes to go on other than the WIP? Or am I just missing something?
Like where did this quote come from?

Deflaktor wrote:

Indrid wrote:- Loading into Land Raiders no longer makes units wait to enter (decreased maximum loading time from 5 to 0)

Eldar changes 2.5 Many of the above posters’ opinions mirror mine, but I can’t bear to just quote everyone and put a +1 for things I agree with. Warning: wall of text and crazy ideas below. Feel free to dismiss the crazy proposals, but not my opinions :cry: , at least not outright without reasoning...

Caeltos wrote:
* Dirge Caster range effect radius reduced from 40 to 32

Could we get a range indication (like heretic worship) on the ability when your mouse hovers over the ability?

And if there are any updates...... share plz?

I guess you could always just make all the crewmen for a HWT have the same weapon range as the main supression weapon. Iirc, the side weapons do a pretty small amount of damage so it would be a very minor buff. This would be an awesome solution, except that some of the weapons aren't that light. Th...

Aguxyz wrote:

Adeptus Noobus wrote:FS Council call-in happens at base though. The Russ can be dropped directly into combat.

WEBWAYS

Those cost red too, at least 100, more if your opponents spots one (quite easy imo)

WATH by default doesn't buff speed anymore, does the improved version by the sword still buff speed?

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