How is a missile launcher generalist? °_O It cuts down the anti-infantry damage to 2/3 of the squad... They become hard av at that point. By that logic the brightlance is anti-infantry too, since it acts like 3 gaurdian models + brightlance. They do the same damage as the DA models. Well no because...

Never talked about "leading" now you'll have to retreat or suffer a lot of bleed or wait for a not so short heal at base (you're very likely to not lose a single model to destructor, unless you got damaged previously) and he'll have free capping time on that side of the map. His commitmen...

FiSH wrote:why do you think brightlance should have power cost? all hard AV units that don't have snare don't have power cost.

Lootas do. Brightlance/lootas still should cost power without their snare because they do much higher dps than the snaring AV teams, it balances it out.

27 req a shot is very nice bleed, which is what sluggas/shootas provide. CSM are only 33 per shot, and that assumes you land the second shot to kill. Killing shootas is one of the most efficient uses for rangers, other than scouts, but against sm you have the asm risk, stormboys don't carry the same...

isn't the beam scorch ability added because brightlance now costs power? i mean, shuriken upgrading to brightlance is a welcome change, but brightlance by itself as an AV option is lacking compared to other factions and thus the extra love with the debuff. i don't think other av squads should get s...

I see the problem only vs LA. And how is Eldar vs CS handicapped game for Eldar ? Because eldar lack the ability to detect from a close range the sorceror would usually go tics, csm, tics, havocs, flame sword. The sorceror can then do the one thing any eldar player hates - control the eldar. He lur...

Dire Avengers with detection = another Superunit like Shootas. I agree about Destructor. The only problem is that that ability either overperforms or underperforms. Finding some common ground would be best, like reducing damage but ignoring cover or something like that. Regarding DA, not if they re...

Grey Knights are needed. They bring some more versatility to the game itself - this attracts new players, since many of them want to see Gk like to play this race (including me.) And considering DoW2 is rather an old game, we do need things to attract new people. And their visual design is as good ...

Lulgrim wrote:Is it possible? Yes.
Is it needed? Talk to Caeltos.

Were Grey Knights needed?

Readability wise this looks really good.

Look, I'm not talking about giving them hotshot dps stats or hellgun dps stats from the default out-of-the-base, I'm talking about changing their firing animation so instead of shooting like 3 guardsmen they shoot like equal to 3 of the GK Inquisitorial Storm troopers with that basic "las gun&...

Lag, it's a global, globals rape stuff, they are meant to. ToN in the middle of a fight can often wipe asm resulting in a GG. A call da boyz or mass waggh at the right time can result in many wipes. So your argument is that noxious cloud is better than globals. Well I disagree. Even when it lands ri...

Yes it would, they are good enough as it without having any serious dps. IG get more than enough dps atm, if spotters had AK stormtrooper dps in t2 that would be insane, even in t3 kasrkin dps is pretty good considering how cheap the unit is. They function really well for their price at the moment. ...

against multiple setup teams or setup teams backed up with ranged firepower or shoota spams and such, i'd definitely say spotters are better. With a catachan build you can actually kill your opponents squads in your engagements you can't really do that in t1 with an Arty spotter build, other than f...

Fixing an animation error is always nice, but there's no reason to buff spotter's dps. these guys can already hard counter a set up team or even two with support, while also helping vs ranged blobs with smokes and melee with the frag shells. They're fine for their price.

The strength of such abilities lies in them not being detectable. If you are always looking 100% of the time at where your enemy tries to manticore strike then depending on the map, your enemy may never even force you to retreat ever, which wastes 100 power. The same applies to plague clouds, except...

Lag wrote:Depends on the game type and skill level. LG is defo the easiest.

He's the best at the moment in pretty much all game modes, but especially 1v1, that map control, that bleed.

I would request the removal of carrion simply because it's a very small map that greatly favours offensive commanders and certain races (tyranids/chaos) over others (eldar/ig). Also carrion has the most ridiculous retreat paths ever. Catachan fortress and sector 95 IMO are playable maps, but I don't...

So DoM is still over performing... It destroys everything but tanks in mere seconds. It still does way to much damage with the psychic storm destroying any super units going from nobs, terminators to the avatar and GUO. And then if you try to melee it it just pops up his leech life. It especially m...

So DoM is still over performing... It destroys everything but tanks in mere seconds. It still does way to much damage with the psychic storm destroying any super units going from nobs, terminators to the avatar and GUO. And then if you try to melee it it just pops up his leech life. It especially m...

Well that needs solving some how because anyone who argues it's balanced is just blind. Anyway back to the more pertinent issue here (because more people are doing it) - the painboy. I just had a game with Bad Ash and this thing is just joke. Orks do fantastic dps, but they bleed to compensate for i...

That's ridiculous.

Looks sweet, good job. Thank you very much .

Not until the current ones are balanced. Grey knights are not balanced yet.

And then there is the issue of models. Which frankly we don't have.

Sometimes small squads or heroes get stuck in your base after a mass retreat because they are surrounded by units, but like you say shouldn't the other units just move out of the way, especially if we are talking about a HT here. Could that be related to it?

Implementing a democratic method of implementation in the elitist elite mod will not go down well I assure you. Still there has to be some way of doing this, because quite frankly what we are doing at the moment is getting nowhere; it's as bad as philosophical polemic. *sigh* I dunno. Kudos to you f...

Can you do a Selenon Fissure redux? That map would be good with a few balance changes I think... yeah, that would be amazing. Just level it out or something, dunno why they decided to make it to favoured to one side. Levelling it out and shifting the power points around a bit could work out really ...

I never said eldar "need" scorpions, I said it would be a nice idea, it's not a priority I only explained how I would do the whole thing. Also what does that whole daemonettes and marines with power sword thing have to do with anything? What I'm "free" to do does not have anythi...

@DJ_Raffa I'd rather have you contribute to the topic instead of trying to bully me out of the game/forum. Not sure if that's asking too much, though. It's asking way too much tbh, Raffa seems to enjoy running around spewing out obnoxious one liners all over the forum with the only apparent intenti...

Agreed. The wargears got buffed to their current state because they were useless before because people wouldn't just run straight at you. The point of these grenades and in fact nearly all grenades isn't, counter intuitively, to move stuff out of cover or AB, in fact it is to get retreat kills and t...