Soz for double post.

I think the SM-Chaos MU is great, and I think SM has an edge. Albeit a slight one.

Scouts are a fanastic unit, and are more than a worthy match for tics from an MU perspective.

They are quite well balanced vs IG/eldar (although warlock gives them lots of trouble). My experience leads me to disagree with you on this one. Map control isn't the start of the problem, but as always with IG it comes down to that being the last nail in the coffin (straw camel back whatever). Let...

Please also consider changing 'Karsrkin' into 'Grenadiers'. The reason being is that it seems strange that karsrkin, who are meant to defend Cadia, are going off world and fighting in different imperial guard regiments. Furthermore, this will allow skinners to implement different types of grenadier...

The range on D cannons is absurd. On the tabletop they are medium range at best, but designed to be extremely heavy hitting. If you want to portray them without completely betraying the real WH40K universe, make them have about the same range as an infantry mans rifle, but keep the huge damage and ...

HI is an advantage generally in T1 due to piercing damage resistance. But later on it becomes a liability for most parts due to extra damage from grenades and artillery, abundance of plasma, melta and inferno and more mobile, higher dps power melee squads. Agreed. T1 however is kind of when resilie...

Sub_Zero wrote:But when that warp spider captures a point, you just start a massive counter-attack and that is your entire army + hero against his entire army with no hero, that should go well for you.

If only it were always so simple.

- and could we please have an autocannon for the sentinel please? The missile launcher disables its kiting ability and that's bad sometimes ;) Trust me, I want every little bit of improvement IG can get. But autocannon sents is a tough one... People express valid concerns about having anti all, FOT...

Shame my idea about having a pre-shot delay for snipers (ie. a pause after acquiring a target, effectively a wind-up) was ignored. It would make them far more defensive a unit than when they used to run forward, shoot a model, run back. Also, makes them less cheap because they don't just take a mode...

Who the hell counters setup teams with banshees ??? Wasn't talking countering per se, just going in for the opportunistic kill after exploiting a lapse in the havoc player's defence. I would say 'forcing off' and countering aren't the same thing exactly. Hard countering itself isn't the problem [wi...

People say they are too hard to force off with asm/raptors. This is hardly the end of it; do you realise how hard they are to force off with IG or Eldar!? Its always a struggle to slip that melee hero/those shees round the fire when the havocs are supported properly by other units, and when you fina...

Protagonist wrote:Just a thought, I think a missile launcher for the squad might be more practical than the lascannon due to set up weapons having the tendency to face the wrong way.

I agree. I was thinking an alternative might be better and the missile launcher makes the most sense.

havoc melee resist needs removing. But their instant suppress trait was also OP. They still suppress faster than other suppression teams atm. I'm sure Caeltos is aware of this already.

Yeh I think advanced sub selection with tab is much more useful than the standard one, allows you to use abilities with a blob without deselecting evrything

I'm in to show my put up a good fight which is kind of inspiring and dignified in a way but also kind of sad and pathetic in another skills

i'm going to be honest but I really don't give a damn about losing LTTE. Why would anyone use LTTE over flare when flare can be used in so many more scenarios, is practically an instant engagement winner, is likely to result in fewer lost models and costs less red? Maybe when flare is on that 2minu...

Toilailee wrote:NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

Don't replace ltte man, it's one of my favorite globals.

Seconded

Increasing the deployable cover rate of build is perfect

Daddy wrote:In late tiers, there practically wont be any cover left, so Whiteshield would just roam the map doing pitiful damage whereas upgraded guardsmen would fare much better.

I've heard this before but you get a lot of blast craters.

I do like the fact that some people are loyal to the end about Loyal To The End I find their courage to speak up rather inspiring. Though I fear this determination and stubbornness will cause Caeltos's wrath to flare. I trust however he will Lead by Example and execute the change according to our s...

Indrid wrote:Maybe +50% base with +10% per level? I'd like to see more mechanics that interacted with XP.

this is compatible with Caeltos's vision and is symbolic of the whiteshields gaining experience. But I'm concerned about losing LTTE...

I think this is a great idea... I remember something similar being proposed a while back that I supported too. BUT WHY does it have to replace LTTE? That global is so useful in the right moment and isn't an easy 'spam' ability. Is the reason you want it replaced is because you consider it too strong...

In a replay yesterday we were observing you said that you thought we should make a distinction between such because the way we react to the OP compared to the imba is different - we should heavily nerf the OP, and gradually nerf the imba. However, how do you define "heavily nerf*" and &qu...

Forestradio wrote:

The funniest thing I've ever seen on these forums. Even funnier than Kim Jong Skill's name.

I think people are really overestimating how scary the rhino is in t1. It really is just a brick that doesn't cap, can't tie up units and does pretty mediocre damage for a 30 power unit. This isn't the reason its scary. It is because you can hop ss, ist ist into it, park by a gen farm, unload on a ...

You're gonna hate it when I say that a clear quantitative answer is impossible. Obviously there are so many variables. OP can and does have a few different meanings; the most straightforward being an element (unit, ability, etc) of the game that results in one's opponent being helpless to counter it...

Its not about perspective really its about objectivity. And it was in response to his point that we should balance it around a lower level.

Why should globals be measured by their wipe capability anyway?

(also, i dont know about you but sometimes i do get MoT just for infantry. frenzied barrage too stronk.) You play 3v3 predominantly right? A lot of things fly there that don't in 1v1. If you add in something else as a preferable upgrade over an already broken upgrade, you are only giving the chaos ...

It isn't 'fair' so to speak but for something to be competitive it has to be based around the top tier players. And it should be and it is.