I consciously believe chaos is not OP. However, there are things which have made me think hmmm is this in combination with other things just too cheap? Just made me curious though not enough to make me think they are OP. Havoc insta suppress, Tcsm dps, sorc worship abuse (making GuO infiltrate? hmmm...

Incendiary and Explosive shells share a cooldown so really the two of them should only count as one way

On that walker note: Sometimes I find the Ogryns in lieu of a walker to be an advantage. The SHI armour acts -similarly- against piercing and the melee/disruption/chase capabilities and mobility of ogryns can be indispensable. Though they bleed, they can escape much more reliably whereas misplacing ...

**** real people atlas, DoW is more important.

I have had that on more occasions than I would care to admit. But usually not while observing :P And yeh I think its just in 1v1 your brain is using up so much more of its cognitive resources because it is 1 more micro intensive, 2 you have to consider a larger area at all times and 3 there are more...

I recall just checking if that was still the case. No need to apologise its very flattering haha

Where is Atlas I was sweating (poker term, not literally) with him last time.

This is sick

What is the quantitative guideline in terms of hours? I would happily enter if not deemed too experienced. I am yet to participate in a tournament of any kind.

edit: soz I was lazy and didn't read properly, saw 500 hours now. Is that a max cut off or a round-abouts reference?

I really think it should just give them chainswords for a duration and increase melee damage and skill. Doesn't have to be fancy. So you can fight off units that come close and who think will be winning the fight until you do, or do some suprise damage when forcing melee with tacs or something. Acti...

100% with torpid's position on this one. Going into tier 2, I need to be constrained as to which route I want to follow: Do I get the chimera and, well, let it do what the chimera does... OR do I rush out that hellhound, attempt a bash, harass his infantry. The upgrade would facilitate both which is...

ATSKNF (love typing that) is defensive, requires damage to charge, slows speed, increases defense. I'd like if slaughter like increased speed and damage (but to a way lesser extent than it does now *cough 35dps cough*), but maybe increased damage taken? I can imagine CSM leaving their cover for a cr...

Anyway to make the gear swap cheaper as with the re purchase of the LG's retinue? IE swapping back to plasma from a ML could be half price?

This went better than expected I thought I was going to get destroyed on this one

I'm not a little whiner (I don't think). I really hate posting in the balance section and feel I do too frequently. But Slaughter is killing me. It is slaughtering me. Last night I had interceptors with justicar and mind blades losing in melee to slaughter csm, and they even specialed my ints. I am ...

I see where you're coming from on everything... But I think he's pretty well balanced atm and fills his role quite well. The only thing I can see possibly deserving a tweak is, perhaps, the melta upgrades AV damage might get a little more dps. But meh

I would think subjugation would make more sense were it only to make the unit start attacking its allies, rather than giving actually control over it. It could last longer and the unit could be damaged then.

Just my two pence

Yeah I think your error is using them as frontline. If you think about it, GM are like the most quintessential 'front line' unit in 40k... Wear the enemy down against their cheap numbers, use them to draw fire etc. Sent can tank while being repaired by them too. Catas are more of a counter initiatio...

They are a heavy weapons team really... they SHOULD shred things in ranged combat

Thanks for notifying this, good idea

Yeah and there's no point because my rating would just be so much higher than everyone's anyway

Oh that's what he meant by specialised...

Sub_Zero wrote:No other squad leader in the game has...

Catachan sergeant does. And is AC on KCSM the only one with a melta pistol or do they all have one?

Thanks for bringing up an important part of the OP Cyris. I think the Hellhound as tier 2 unit and banewolf upgrade is a perfect fix. The banewolf has a huge role in the IG roster for inq which is missing for the other two. I'm no good with proposing numbers, but if I had to suggest for the Hellhoun...

I think snipers are good atm

I kinda miss nemesis focus...

How long can we expect it to take SS to be fixed? No pressure and no need to rush, just curious.

Wow not only does Torpid take a shot but then Riku follows up too. Poor Ven

I think Torpid has pretty much said all there is to say in favour of my proposal so I've not got more to add... Other than I concur.

Psychology student weigh in: Memory is very fallible even if we feel our particular memory is 100% accurate.

Not taking sides, impartial info

Can't believe I'm doing this to my beloved IG but BW is a little OP, as I'm sure all agree I suggest making the HELLHOUND a tier 2 unit (no more inq only drop in), but then have the Banewolf gear upgrade for the snare effect. That way, Ig will be more internally balanced as such a powerful unit will...

Is that bad? It would mean you would have to draw fire to allow your snipers to get their shot off. And, if infiltrated, it would just mean you'd have to wait a bit instead of run in, set up, thank you for that model or two, see ya (assuming no detectors). It would also prevent kiting because every ...

No one listened to me when I suggested that a delay between set up and first shot was all that was necessary to fix snipers

No one cares about little old <1000 hour cheah