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by Kvn
Sun 13 May, 2018 12:14 am
Forum: Balance Discussion
Topic: 2.8 Non-Consensus Thread (Part 2 of 2)
Replies: 273
Views: 257952

Re: 2.8 Non-Consensus Thread (Part 2 of 2)

Yeah. Well he's not wrong. Compared to all the other transport it bashes gens way better. Slaughters them in 1on1 combat, in fact, beats every single vehicle in T2 in 1on1 combat other than the default chaos dread and Tdreads. While doing much more damage to infantry not just on a dps level but in ...
by Kvn
Sat 12 May, 2018 10:10 pm
Forum: Balance Discussion
Topic: 2.8 Non-Consensus Thread (Part 2 of 2)
Replies: 273
Views: 257952

Re: 2.8 Non-Consensus Thread (Part 2 of 2)

Who was doing that? -Falcon seems to be too a good as an allrounder especially in comparison to other transport units and it's kinda cheap price. In 2.8, there are some nerfs incoming for it and we'll have to see how they turn out but imo a further decrease for it's chase and av ability might be re...
by Kvn
Sat 12 May, 2018 9:38 pm
Forum: Balance Discussion
Topic: 2.8 Non-Consensus Thread (Part 2 of 2)
Replies: 273
Views: 257952

Re: 2.8 Non-Consensus Thread (Part 2 of 2)

And you still don't seem to understand that it's useless to compare such things. "CSM have less HP than TACS, buff CSM plx." k thx bye. I was comparing the Falcon within the confines of its utility as a transport, in answer to other people doing the same and asking it be nerfed very heavi...
by Kvn
Sat 12 May, 2018 7:47 pm
Forum: Balance Discussion
Topic: 2.8 Non-Consensus Thread (Part 2 of 2)
Replies: 273
Views: 257952

Re: 2.8 Non-Consensus Thread (Part 2 of 2)

I can give you all the numbers, but it won't help if you just ignore them. Little tip. Don't only look at 1 single aspect. A unit isn't only it's HP. And yes, it's very frustrating having to deal with people like you. So I'm not going to bother. But dumb posts have to be called out. Riku... serious...
by Kvn
Sat 12 May, 2018 5:01 pm
Forum: Balance Discussion
Topic: 2.8 Non-Consensus Thread (Part 2 of 2)
Replies: 273
Views: 257952

Re: 2.8 Non-Consensus Thread (Part 2 of 2)

I CBA to spend any more time on this or you :) So just look deeper. You can figure it out! I hope. If you're going to spend so much time insulting me about "not being able to understand numbers" about the durability of a given unit, and then can't be asked to provide said numbers when I b...
by Kvn
Sat 12 May, 2018 4:53 pm
Forum: Balance Discussion
Topic: 2.8 Non-Consensus Thread (Part 2 of 2)
Replies: 273
Views: 257952

Re: 2.8 Non-Consensus Thread (Part 2 of 2)

Dark Riku wrote:
Dark Riku wrote:... and the fact that the falcon does a shitton of damage and AV damage on top of that. Yeah, lets only take the upgrades on the other vehicles. But not on the falcon. Such a great way of looking at things! ;)
Dark Riku wrote:You have to see the bigger picture...


Nice way of dodging the question man.
by Kvn
Thu 10 May, 2018 3:57 pm
Forum: Balance Discussion
Topic: 2.8 Non-Consensus Thread (Part 2 of 2)
Replies: 273
Views: 257952

Re: 2.8 Non-Consensus Thread (Part 2 of 2)

Sigh. I had said I wasn't going to bother, but really now. This is just getting silly. For clarity sake, I edited my previous post to make my intention clearer, but seeing as I'm responding to you now I'm breaking that rule anyway so it doesn't really matter. You live in a different reality than we ...
by Kvn
Wed 09 May, 2018 5:54 pm
Forum: Balance Discussion
Topic: 2.8 Non-Consensus Thread (Part 2 of 2)
Replies: 273
Views: 257952

Re: 2.8 Non-Consensus Thread (Part 2 of 2)

up the wrong tree. The Falcon at the moment is easily the strongest transport in the game in part to it giving Eldar staying power, it;s durability come tier 3 and the immense AV damage it does out of the gate. There's a reason this is the most commonly seen transport and despite its cost nearing t...
by Kvn
Wed 09 May, 2018 4:07 pm
Forum: Balance Discussion
Topic: 2.8 Non-Consensus Thread (Part 2 of 2)
Replies: 273
Views: 257952

Re: 2.8 Non-Consensus Thread (Part 2 of 2)

I think you're missing the whole gist of Eldar not being Space Marines. I never said they were. I said that they had the most fragile and expensive transport, which they do. Riku demanded I look at statistics, claiming I was completely wrong. I pointed out that statistics backed me up. Their streng...
by Kvn
Tue 08 May, 2018 10:49 pm
Forum: Balance Discussion
Topic: 2.8 Non-Consensus Thread (Part 2 of 2)
Replies: 273
Views: 257952

Re: 2.8 Non-Consensus Thread (Part 2 of 2)

Because I don't feel like getting into yet another lengthy debate that goes nowhere, I'll say this and only this to you, Riku. Kvn... Falcon is not fragile compared to the other transports at all, look up the stats, seriously. Falcon - costs 360/90 - 500hp Razorback - costs 330/80 with upgrade - 600...
by Kvn
Tue 08 May, 2018 10:35 pm
Forum: Balance Discussion
Topic: Chaos faction balance; weaker options
Replies: 101
Views: 94085

Re: Chaos faction balance; weaker units.

To sum it up; +50 hp on AC, stealth in cover on raptors and more power melee/ heavy melee on AC MoK would break them? To put it bluntly, yes it may. You should look back through the archives. Way back in the day, someone wanted to give the GM sarge 10 melee dps on his chainsword. lt turned into a l...
by Kvn
Tue 08 May, 2018 1:49 pm
Forum: Balance Discussion
Topic: 2.8 Non-Consensus Thread (Part 2 of 2)
Replies: 273
Views: 257952

Re: 2.8 Non-Consensus Thread (Part 2 of 2)

Ranger damage isn't sky high, that's right. Though it's enough to be annoying(essentielly being damaged on sight) and pick a model here or there. Rangers deal 60 damage per shot. That's not even enough to pick off Heretics. Add that to the fact that they almost never shoot the same model twice if t...
by Kvn
Tue 08 May, 2018 2:54 am
Forum: Balance Discussion
Topic: 2.8 Non-Consensus Thread (Part 2 of 2)
Replies: 273
Views: 257952

Re: 2.8 Non-Consensus Thread (Part 2 of 2)

Cyris wrote:The Falcon could lose the T3 shield and still be an auto-buy in 1v1 as is.


This I strongly disagree on. 500 hp is pretty flimsy on an expensive frontline vehicle, especially in T3. It's not like Eldar have many other things that can tank in the late game.
by Kvn
Tue 08 May, 2018 12:18 am
Forum: Balance Discussion
Topic: 2.8 Non-Consensus Thread (Part 2 of 2)
Replies: 273
Views: 257952

Re: 2.8 Non-Consensus Thread (Part 2 of 2)

A better comparison is the falcon vs WL. In which case the falcon is gigantically superior in pretty much all forms and MUs except orks due to how threatening T2 ork melee is. The falcon is undoubtedly the most overpowered unit in the game. Firstly the mere fact it is a transport and has some form ...
by Kvn
Mon 07 May, 2018 11:33 pm
Forum: Balance Discussion
Topic: Chaos faction balance; weaker options
Replies: 101
Views: 94085

Re: Chaos faction balance; weak units.

You know, I fully understand that I shouldn't even bother responding here, but I still feel compelled to. Let it be known that this is the last one, as I'm tired of debating this with you. Everything you've pointed out has been addressed multiple times. Yet the choice they can make is unequal in dis...
by Kvn
Mon 07 May, 2018 11:01 pm
Forum: Balance Discussion
Topic: Chaos faction balance; weaker options
Replies: 101
Views: 94085

Re: Chaos faction balance; weak units.

Well, don t blame me because of Math xD How's this for math? CSM squad is made up of three squad members 100% of the squad's damage / 3 members = roughly 33% AC in your equation adds the same damage as another model which is, surprise surprise, roughly 33% 100% of the base squad damage + 33% = 133%...
by Kvn
Mon 07 May, 2018 10:22 pm
Forum: Balance Discussion
Topic: Chaos faction balance; weaker options
Replies: 101
Views: 94085

Re: Chaos faction balance; weak units.

MoK gets avaible in T2. With all the upgrades, they cost more/are equal to blood letters in cost, while having a model less. Does the spread of the cost make it more acceptable? It would, if they wouldn t be so mediocre. The efficiency of their melee does not persist long enough. I realize this is ...
by Kvn
Mon 07 May, 2018 9:44 pm
Forum: Balance Discussion
Topic: Chaos faction balance; weaker options
Replies: 101
Views: 94085

Re: Chaos faction balance; weak units.

Blood letters are even cheaper then MoK CSM with champion. Except that Bloodletters are a T2 unit... CSM come out in T1. They have an impact from the very start of the game. They get leveled in T1. Then you can upgrade them. That is the important thing. You are NOT buying a new CSM squad just for t...
by Kvn
Mon 07 May, 2018 9:20 pm
Forum: Balance Discussion
Topic: Chaos faction balance; weaker options
Replies: 101
Views: 94085

Re: Chaos faction balance; weak units.

The ammount of utility Banshees get from aspect + exarch stands in no correlation to MoK CSM. What Banshees get from their upgrades: Fleet of Foot, War Shout, and either soft av on their Exarch (aspect of strength) or the ability to leap over cover (aspect of fleetness) What CSM get: Faster base mo...
by Kvn
Mon 07 May, 2018 9:05 pm
Forum: Balance Discussion
Topic: Chaos faction balance; weaker options
Replies: 101
Views: 94085

Re: Chaos faction balance; weak units.

Banshees are T1 no power. Once CSM upgrade, they are also power melee shock troops CSM are also T1 no power. Once Banshees upgrade (which is mandatory for Banshees), they cost power as well. Khorne CSM are not, and I repeat not meant to be a melee superiority unit. They're a utility upgrade. Chaos ...
by Kvn
Mon 07 May, 2018 8:43 pm
Forum: Balance Discussion
Topic: Chaos faction balance; weaker options
Replies: 101
Views: 94085

Re: Chaos faction balance; weak units.

I said, they trade badly for their cost AND don t have the utility for example of banshees That goes without saying. They're an optional upgrade on a (probably leveled) general utility squad. They're not meant to be superior to dedicated melee troops the same way that a missile tac isn't meant to b...
by Kvn
Mon 07 May, 2018 8:01 pm
Forum: Balance Discussion
Topic: Chaos faction balance; weaker options
Replies: 101
Views: 94085

Re: Chaos faction balance; weak units.

TE | NoSkill wrote:PS: Why have heretics 75 melee skill?


Balance reasons to prevent Heretics from being insta-killed in the early game by Banshee/Slugga special attacks.
by Kvn
Mon 07 May, 2018 7:38 pm
Forum: Balance Discussion
Topic: Chaos faction balance; weaker options
Replies: 101
Views: 94085

Re: Chaos faction balance; weak units.

TE | NoSkill wrote:O cmon, it can t be so bad!


In all fairness, those are some very big buffs you're suggesting. Especially the last two.
by Kvn
Mon 07 May, 2018 7:12 pm
Forum: Balance Discussion
Topic: 2.8 Non-Consensus Thread (Part 2 of 2)
Replies: 273
Views: 257952

Re: 2.8 Non-Consensus Thread (Part 2 of 2)

Falcon: 500hp + 350hp for 100/30 (also scales with levels since hp increase is tied to energy) Razorback: 400hp + 200hp for 70/20 Chimera: 500hp no hp upgrade Wartrukk: 350hp + 200hp for 50/20 Yes. Hence why I said the Falcon was the second most fragile transport in T2. The shield is a T3 upgrade. ...
by Kvn
Mon 07 May, 2018 5:24 pm
Forum: Balance Discussion
Topic: 2.8 Non-Consensus Thread (Part 2 of 2)
Replies: 273
Views: 257952

Re: 2.8 Non-Consensus Thread (Part 2 of 2)

Some suggestions: Eldar -Falcon seems to be too a good as an allrounder especially in comparison to other transport units and it's kinda cheap price. In 2.8, there are some nerfs incoming for it and we'll have to see how they turn out but imo a further decrease for it's chase and av ability might b...
by Kvn
Thu 26 Apr, 2018 2:45 am
Forum: Balance Discussion
Topic: Suggestions to make ig better faction
Replies: 26
Views: 18433

Re: Suggestions to make ig better faction

I was going to type out yet another lengthy response, but there's just no point by now. I've said my portion, and you've pretty much blocked your ears on all fronts. I'll just leave with this one last remark. You are the one demanding change, therefore you are the one who needs to prove that things ...
by Kvn
Wed 25 Apr, 2018 2:46 am
Forum: Balance Discussion
Topic: Suggestions to make ig better faction
Replies: 26
Views: 18433

Re: Suggestions to make ig better faction

No artillery and aoe doesn't do wonders bcz ig simply jujmps in chimera and quikly repositions in safe place. You can't snipe chimera like that bcz of spotters that will disable your lascanon or catas that can disable lasscanon to plagues usually ties up in melle to prevent them from shooting, on t...
by Kvn
Tue 24 Apr, 2018 3:12 am
Forum: Balance Discussion
Topic: Suggestions to make ig better faction
Replies: 26
Views: 18433

Re: Suggestions to make ig better faction

Artillery and high amounts of aoe dmg won't do shit coz he has chimera, spreading to the rest of map too coz he has chimera. Artillery and AoE do wonders as he's blobbed around the Chimera making him a predictable and easy target. He has to choose between repairing and keeping his infantry safe whe...
by Kvn
Mon 23 Apr, 2018 2:04 am
Forum: Balance Discussion
Topic: Suggestions to make ig better faction
Replies: 26
Views: 18433

Re: Suggestions to make ig better faction

Improvised explosives should function like demos in coh 2 no sight provided so you need to spot units stepping on it overwise no skill ability. While similar, DoW II and CoH are different games with different fundamental designs behind how their units function. About execution i mentioned: "co...
by Kvn
Sun 22 Apr, 2018 7:35 pm
Forum: Balance Discussion
Topic: Suggestions to make ig better faction
Replies: 26
Views: 18433

Re: Suggestions to make ig better faction

Hmm.... by "make better faction" you mean nerf everything? Might want to be a bit more upfront about that kind of thing. Don't really feel up to long essays right now, but here's my two cents. 1 - On one hand, I agree that the vision could potentially be a bit much, but they also need it t...

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