i pretty much agree with this, but more broken is the knockback of Guardsmen at T3 imho. its the same without costing red, and also for the startting squad. just turn on and watch heroes dying... i mean the sqad already has really high damage, is increadibly cheap and for free at the start. Uhh? Wh...

This is a thread for FC Heavy Flamer so please stick to the topic.

Also melta would probably have fotm so tying it up so that it can't shoot at your precious vehicle is a "tiny bit" harder (especially with KFF) as it has no need to be set up.

Turning the FC terminator commander into a chaos lord type hero (good ranged and melee dps instead of insane melee dps) isn't a bad idea at all, and it looks like we already have a model. I'm not quite sure what that meant. I mean that is pretty much exactly what he is now. In addition to his good ...

but the wargear options post upgrade are kind of a joke with exception maybe of power claws. Wut? The claws are probably the worst of all the wargear you can get to FC. I mean 85dps heavy melee with a good ranged attack is generally superior to having 70 dps power melee even if it is with splash. H...

It is weaker that the termie squad lamer at least in terms of dps and it has a way higher dps than tact lamer. It might be as Riku already stated that the splash is what screws it up and makes it do jack shit.

When making a new topics please come up with a name for the topic that is not vague and describes the content.

Hmmm. If you can upgrade your hero into a super unit. It would surely be a bit questionable. I mean hero costs no upkeep and uses 0 popcap. I really wouldn't want to convert my hero into something that uses 20+ popcap and costs upkeep. How much hp would he have? what armor type? what abilities? ener...

not sure just how screwed they would be since only certain units can get detect. the premise seems to be it's oh so hard to get detectors working on gates but on the other stuff it's possible? so you can have a detector with your army to spot double tzeentch tics but you can't for spotting gates? t...

Mantle of Hate is imo generally not really that good since it the ability lasts such a short period of time. It is not useless but gets overshadowed a bit by the other two armors. Nikhel: Yes I do know how the bubble Choas Lawd works. The 2,5 health regen is nice but it really doesn't matter in batt...

Like i said before, the middle resource points and your naturals can easily be defended from gate attack, things only get tricky if you decide to push forward into your enemies naturals and leave your rear open. You do realize that that brings a huge advantage to eldar VP wise? Not that they are ex...

IoK already got buffed in the beta iirc. - Icon of Khorne needs a little rework. It synergies well with the Lighting Claws, but it's overshadowed by the Claws/Harness of Rage/Iron Halo combo. Well of course it is worse for tanking. I mean the other is a combination of an armor and an accessory and c...

I think you need to work on your threats a bit...

Lulz.

I would have assumed Codex's post would've been enough of a hint but apparently not. So here it is in plain English: No point taking out any personal grudges here. Chill the fuck out. Change your tampons, eat some chocolate and ice cream or something and stop this pissing contest. Next one acting li...

Hmmm... This is a tough pick... Perhaps Tau.

To finish, I have not been vague at all. Proof of such is right in the fact that you posted a near thread-page-long response to my statements... Castle: Uhhh... How is that exactly a proof of you not being vague? Just because someone can write a long post in response does not mean you have been cle...

Too bad it's not a fex, beside the fact that the TB isn't that used anymore for reasons stated above and it's much more favorable to have VC/BS.

I am missing your point here. How exactly does this nullify the advantage gained by having a drop pod call in?

So having a no build time TB Fex (that can be repaired and supported with repair global and sligthly higher dps) appearing in the middle of your army with full hp is not an advantage? So it is an advantage of having to build something. Then walk it from your base to the fight. In addition to that if...

Regarding GK Lib: - Infiltrate grants 25% dmg buff and infiltration also grants ranged dmg resistance if there are no detectors nearby so I really can't see what squad would not benefit of that. Regarding purgation squad scaling: - I really can't think of a T1,5 unit that scales well unupgraded. I ...

Well getting the VD via drop pod is not an insignificant advantage. You skip build time and have it in battle without having to charge the line with it + the drop pod does kb and dmg is someone is not paying attention or bothering to dodge. It counts only for the one engagement but nevertheless it c...

Very nice work indeed!

The topic is called: "Wraithlord". Please stick to it.

As this is a balance thread, I see no point in including TT in the conversation here.

And why is that? If you propose to change something, please elaborate the reasoning behind it.

Ace: I was commenting on wa1243agh's opinion of vanguard paying off only against squishy units. Not whether or not it is a good purchase in T3. Though I do think that losing melta for that extra melee efficiency is fine. Losing the levels on the other hand... Well I pretty much agree with Toil on th...

Vanguard pays of better agains heavy infantry due to power melee (30% extra dmg against HI/SHI and full damage to commanders). Plasma dmg is 1,5 against heavy inf. so 23dps plasma per model would be 34,5 dps per model against HI/SHI (tcsm do something like 27 dps per model against HI and 22 against ...

Hammer FC already has battle cry that makes units fly all over the map. Why does FC need vehicle stun/snare for thunderhammer?

This is a thread concerning Raptors. Not Bloodletters. And BL dps in retail was 38 heavy_melee. Temporary letters had 50 dps iirc. Atm they have a high power_melee dps which is 45 so they do fairly soft AV damage. Current Bludlettahz spell R-A-P-E to most other infantry if supported properly, they a...

I just don't think sniper should be overall as good as rangers as they are an upgrade to a squad that can stay vanilla or get other upgrades. I just agree pretty much 100% with what Codex said earlier.