noticed: mostly "elite army"=SM,CSM/ "horde army"=ORKS, IG, NID/ i said in this post i dont know how NA/EUROPE player feeling balance, BUT most korean player (such as me), heavy infantry army too strong against horde, and people tired situation which elite army spammed like 3 csm...

UI REALLY DISAPPOINTED. Where is unit ilust?
I really think nice unit tab(show u've all) but i want base building can hotkey with numlock pad

But big problem of these ui, it's too old ugly style/too anime

No micro cover? Ok
No realistic game?
Fucking nope!

He is ROK old gamer who im knew. becasue of DPPK, korean must be conscripted for 2 years. and back.
like him, some guys retern to elite mod as my information.

How about think so? I really tired setup team and suppression spam. In 3v3, everywhere suppress heavy bolter , knock back plasma cannon,madness dmg autocannon...(and most powerful setup weapon in SM,CSM. these army easy to see in 3v3 game too.) I dont say decrease firepower. If then, they r too weak...

Tex wrote:Tone down over performing T2 GM's and I will support a price reduction to the "lesser used" IG stuff, top of that list being Ogryns.

GOOD

tema's dps 48.96 upgraded cripling posion>>guard with sergent dps 36.92

Well, in response, tier 1 guardman weakest infatry in this game. Even temaguant win crippling poison upgrade(when guardman with sergent)

Rataxas wrote: - Balance creators should start playing some 1v1 , not just reading comments on forum or take ideas from 1-2 players.

I agreed this opnion and maybe MOST korean user agreed with this. yes, many user feel like it.

+1

Swiftsabre/ manticore OP? No, i think not. before 2.4, many ig user rarely use ogryn, because they cant do their duty; they dont countering range units blob, countering heavy weapon spammed. (Okay, some pro's use them very niced. But most non-pro or beginners didnt.) That why most ig user select man...

Good news but elite mod's future unclear...

literally it is. I think hotfix patch need one more (vostroya 1stborn my best favorite skin!)

Oh my god, is this post still working? Im suprised.

And all of guys didnt think whiteshield replace mine drop, Not loyal to the end? Just few change, problem solve! (U dont choose only 1.) And whiteshield onrginal skill change set mine.

My mean, let Ws(skill) repalce air mine drop not ltte.

Catachan eat asm? Well, can they win even jump knock back attack and merciless strike combo(both full upgraded)? their melee dmg nerfed 2.3.1 (30 dps in vinilla but decrase in 2.3.1 20dps if I right. ) and asm can do knock back special attack.(cata dont have special attack) And most battle, sm user'...

As I said. In my korean community, many people said horde army is weak (ah, except Mighty horror incarnate NIDS) And eldar still powerful (banshee is so madness) too strong space marine and CSM(Heavy infantry) and we see 3 sm 2 csm 1 other race every game. I dont think criticize, literally have ques...

Originally IG isnt easy, not recommended faction for beginners. I dont know why so many beginner start with IG but they had a wrong start. It is not abnormal u have a problem.

As one of IG player, I totally agreed venjitron's offer. Originally IG terribly lack of anti assult team, and this combined Th FC=nothing to couter except inquistor.
My opinion is only about Ig situation but not really different other faction maybe.

I see now 2.3.2 beta log. Um... does anyone who concern counter heavy infantry blob/wraithguard/ entrenched defence force? IG strong in 1v1 definitely, but in 3v3 dont...(manticore nerfed 2.3.2 beta log)

executioner's problem is because of their short range, they will 1st target enemy AT unit. And die fast unless move out as soon as possible. can dealing shi/hi? Nope. Get it?

And i know good example like this; Grey knight dreadnought with plasma cannon.

it is not worth at cost than vanqushier cannon. vanquisher has long range, efective all target to dealing. But executioner dont.

so i think give to it another attack mode-'Valleyshot' make them attack like a sm plasma cannon. This will be better solve to counter meq blob, and counter wraithguard.

Hey guys why we don't think about plasma pistol? Its dmg only 7.82! Simillar gm plasma gun! I think it should be berf. They r too weak.

something say with Ig: mortar team is a enough now. And i think one of ig's weakness a lack of counter HI synergy power. So i recommend mortar fire get additinal damage heavy infantry. Assail is very good and inquisitor's core item. But u know this- elite mod ig's real weakness counter melee, air-as...

Many user claim 'this will limit tactics'. i agree. Ltte and chimera auto-reinforcement synergy so important and core commisar lord user's main strategy. Then, how about replace air-dropped mine? Commisar's theme is beef-fighter but what relation with mine field? Seems good now but if many user worr...

Good to commisar lord. Inq and lg have tier 2 global/wargear very good to av. (Vanquisher cannon/inferno pistol) but commisar lord have not. But... how about whiteshield in tier 1 they do close combat? Chainsword and laspistol. This is more like to "conscript" and when lasscanon upgrede,th...

yes eldar's gen too small to click. matbe change that.

and we know many unfair things eldar have. that unfair thing in play should be exterminate like eldruch storm's vehicle stun/warlock's fire sword delete turret once. Etc.

this is nonsense. why we cannot control them?
In coh2, player can control fireing arc. But still here we cannot. so ig cannot use normally HWT in bunker.

if can, this is good merit tier 1.5~2 ig and eldar/sm etc.

I dont agree u because heavy flamer. FIRST Light lnfantry -horde(eldar ig orks nid...) army very weak to flamer. Maybe guardsman,gaunt,guardian will be slaughtered. And i know generater bash I know use cleansing flame, 3 gen will be wiped at once. I think elite mod fc is normal not powerful because ...

1. ALL power sword(or weapon) cannot peneterate super heavy infantry armor (meaning no additional damage) and ALL gk brethren now have super heavy infantry armor type.

2. when eldar use fleet of foot, boost speed 3-> 2.

this is just suggestion.

the problem of ig, they has no assult/teleport unit:this mean platform/suprresion unit is hard counter to ig before chimera/manticore. as u know, new unit available in here "artillary sppoter" but... is it really counter to platform like to another race assult team? i dont think so. 1st, u...