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by Antandron
Sun 02 Jun, 2019 4:33 pm
Forum: Balance discussion
Topic: Upkeep Findings & Implications(Long Post)
Replies: 5
Views: 375

Re: Upkeep Findings & Implications(Long Post)

Can all this surplus/deficit be avoided with a fixed 2.55 upkeep/pop for all units?
by Antandron
Sun 02 Jun, 2019 4:32 pm
Forum: Balance discussion
Topic: Upkeep Standardization Analysis/Criticisms(Super Long Post)
Replies: 4
Views: 291

Re: Upkeep Standardization Analysis/Criticisms(Super Long Post)

I feel my argument hasn’t been understood for whatever reason, here is my attempt to clarify. Let me know if I’ve not understood something you wrote Impregnable; I don’t play any more and am not really that interested in this subject to read everything twice. Do you think that I only want to standar...
by Antandron
Fri 31 May, 2019 6:46 pm
Forum: Balance discussion
Topic: Upkeep Standardization Analysis/Criticisms(Super Long Post)
Replies: 4
Views: 291

Re: Upkeep Standardization Analysis/Criticisms(Super Long Post)

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My lawyer will be releasing a statement shortly.

Update:

No comment. I'm not getting involved in this again.
by Antandron
Wed 15 May, 2019 2:49 pm
Forum: Balance discussion
Topic: Standardise Red?
Replies: 1
Views: 480

Standardise Red?

It makes sense to me that the red gained from killing units is proportional to the strength of the unit killed. Relic probably intended this to be the case since many of the red values are higher for stronger units than for weaker units. It's not even an important issue unless red is related to XP. ...
by Antandron
Fri 03 May, 2019 10:01 am
Forum: Balance discussion
Topic: Eldar Ideas
Replies: 37
Views: 1624

Re: Eldar Ideas

Units are only OP/UP in relation to other units.

If they weren't, then Wraithlords are always OK because "weak Eldar T3" or some other bad reason.

Is WL Shuriken upgrade really only 0.5 fotm? Every other Walker weapon is 1.0 fotm btw.
by Antandron
Thu 18 Apr, 2019 9:09 am
Forum: Balance discussion
Topic: Spotters and Catachans
Replies: 23
Views: 784

Re: Spotters and Catachans

My suggestions would be : - Remove Ol' Unreliable from Catachans. Rework them as only an anti melee unit. - Lower the cost of Catachans. - Increase Spotters cost, should be at least 40 power for that they can do. - Or, just make Mortar and Smoke Shells share the same cooldown, so they won't perform...
by Antandron
Sun 07 Apr, 2019 7:23 am
Forum: Balance discussion
Topic: Post- 11/17 2.9 Patch Making Stream Notes and Points
Replies: 53
Views: 5568

Re: Post- 11/17 2.9 Patch Making Stream Notes and Points

Great post. My only criticism is that the phrase "the higher upkeep of the Vindicare and GK Librarian" isn't strictly true since they are subcommanders and these have a lower than average pop value for whatever reason. Both have less upkeep than Tacs and many other T1 units which they are ...
by Antandron
Sat 06 Apr, 2019 7:19 pm
Forum: Balance discussion
Topic: Flesh Hook and Independent Character (Problems)
Replies: 42
Views: 1844

Re: Flesh Hook and Independent Character (Problems)

Ahh but Atlas, EVERYTHING can be assigned a cost as I had shown in the thought experiment involving proAI playing infinite games. ... e.g. If you agree with the principle of "better units cost more" or "better models cost more" then you have a hard time explaining why an Interce...
by Antandron
Sat 06 Apr, 2019 2:50 pm
Forum: Balance discussion
Topic: Flesh Hook and Independent Character (Problems)
Replies: 42
Views: 1844

Re: Flesh Hook and Independent Character (Problems)

Don't think squad price that hard to do and your hardly the one to talk about theory shit atlas you made up "standardized upkeep" to fit your ideas shame that got blown up :lol: if you just use some comon sense squad price not that hard to do but then again comon sense elite mod wtf is th...
by Antandron
Sat 06 Apr, 2019 8:13 am
Forum: Balance discussion
Topic: Flesh Hook and Independent Character (Problems)
Replies: 42
Views: 1844

Re: Flesh Hook and Independent Character (Problems)

And no, squad pricing is only easy from the literal point of view. You keep engaging in this reductionist theory of boiling it all down to a req and power cost but there's just no compelling reason to do so or even believe that non-cost attributes can even be assigned a fixed cost. Ahh but Atlas, E...
by Antandron
Fri 05 Apr, 2019 8:46 pm
Forum: Balance discussion
Topic: Flesh Hook and Independent Character (Problems)
Replies: 42
Views: 1844

Re: Flesh Hook and Independent Character (Problems)

Salt free here. I just like contributing balance ideas, can't help myself. Die-last: a. looks ridiculous when a squad leader tanks damage and distributes it evenly to other models b. only exists because of Flesh Hook c. is an advantage for factions that use squad leaders d. is an inconsistency in th...
by Antandron
Fri 05 Apr, 2019 3:49 pm
Forum: Balance discussion
Topic: Flesh Hook and Independent Character (Problems)
Replies: 42
Views: 1844

Re: Flesh Hook and Independent Character (Problems)

Die-last is a bullshit mechanic and only exists because of Flesh Hook apparently. The solution is this: a. nerf Fleshhook so that it can't be (overly) abused or exploited vs squad leaders. maybe range 30 so that range 40 detection units can detect the LA before being flesh hooked. b. give LA more hp...
by Antandron
Thu 04 Apr, 2019 11:47 am
Forum: Balance discussion
Topic: Are Purgation OP?
Replies: 17
Views: 1663

Re: Are Purgation OP?

It's not exactly 1:1 cost symmetry as some exceptions can be made for some units. This is, imo, the easiest method to obtain reasonable unit costs and avoid units being OP or UP. It works for units, squad leaders, upgrades and wargear and anything else I've forgotten to mention. The other alternativ...
by Antandron
Wed 03 Apr, 2019 5:59 pm
Forum: Balance discussion
Topic: GK is OP?
Replies: 17
Views: 986

Re: GK is OP?

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PaladinSquad you should play some 3v3s vs OM T3.
by Antandron
Wed 03 Apr, 2019 5:53 pm
Forum: Balance discussion
Topic: Are Purgation OP?
Replies: 17
Views: 1663

Re: Are Purgation OP?

May I ask the OP why they think Purgs are OP? I didn't really see an argument either way so much as a readout of the Purgation Squad's attributes. Or is this simply a more literal question that is looking for feedback? My approach would be this: a. make a direct comparison to similar units in anoth...
by Antandron
Mon 11 Mar, 2019 6:24 pm
Forum: Balance discussion
Topic: Are Purgation OP?
Replies: 17
Views: 1663

Are Purgation OP?

Patch Notes: Purgation Squad: Squad no longer captures 50% faster than normal. Squad no longer wields Nemesis Halberds and Storm Bolters in addition to a heavy weapon. Squad now is equipped with 3 Incinerators or Psycannons. Incinerator courage damage reduced from 25 to 20. Psilencers damage per hit...
by Antandron
Sat 02 Mar, 2019 11:16 am
Forum: Balance discussion
Topic: Post- 11/17 2.9 Patch Making Stream Notes and Points
Replies: 53
Views: 5568

Re: Post- 11/17 2.9 Patch Making Stream Notes and Points

I was being sarcastic with the " 2 x CSM builds DESTROYED by an extra 9.45 req/minute upkeep confirmed." and the "Warp Spiders USELESS after MASSIVE 2.56 req/minute upkeep increase."
by Antandron
Sat 02 Mar, 2019 5:35 am
Forum: Balance discussion
Topic: Post- 11/17 2.9 Patch Making Stream Notes and Points
Replies: 53
Views: 5568

Re: Post- 11/17 2.9 Patch Making Stream Notes and Points

Patch 2.8: Chaos Space Marine Squad: Upkeep cost increased from 1.92 to 2.55. Pop is 15 so upkeep was 15 x 1.92 = 28.8 req/minute Now 15 x 2.55 = 38.25 req/minute Clickbait: 2 x CSM builds DESTROYED by an extra 9.45 req/minute upkeep confirmed. None of this even considers the free upkeep on the firs...
by Antandron
Fri 01 Mar, 2019 4:58 pm
Forum: Balance discussion
Topic: Post- 11/17 2.9 Patch Making Stream Notes and Points
Replies: 53
Views: 5568

Re: Post- 11/17 2.9 Patch Making Stream Notes and Points

Not only are your posts poorly thought out and heavily salted, they read like shit too.

http://www.grammarly.com

Use it.

Don't credit Atlas with the idea of upkeep standardisation because that was my idea. I've tried to explain it but you refuse to even try to understand so I give up.
by Antandron
Fri 01 Mar, 2019 3:31 pm
Forum: Balance discussion
Topic: Post- 11/17 2.9 Patch Making Stream Notes and Points
Replies: 53
Views: 5568

Re: Post- 11/17 2.9 Patch Making Stream Notes and Points

Tyvm Impregnable, I don't have the energy to type about this stuff anymore. I think better explanation is along the line of let us not use upkeep as a balance tool because it is not a reliable mechanic to use for balancing. There are several tools that can be used for balancing from unit stats, rein...
by Antandron
Fri 01 Mar, 2019 7:42 am
Forum: Balance discussion
Topic: Post- 11/17 2.9 Patch Making Stream Notes and Points
Replies: 53
Views: 5568

Re: Post- 11/17 2.9 Patch Making Stream Notes and Points

Just great thinking that you can somehow standardize stuff in warhammer Q. If you have two units which are identical, with identical purchase costs, how do you set upkeep so that the cost of both of them, in terms of purchase cost + upkeep, remains identical at all times? ...some units had less upk...
by Antandron
Sun 24 Feb, 2019 6:47 pm
Forum: Balance discussion
Topic: Ask for feedback on Purifiers.
Replies: 12
Views: 925

Re: Ask for feedback on Purifiers.

What is the difference between ASM and Raptors? One jumps, does KB and then does damage to infantry. The other jumps, suppresses and then does damage to infantry. What am I missing?
by Antandron
Mon 18 Feb, 2019 9:24 am
Forum: Releases
Topic: 2.9.0 Released! Post-Release Roadmap included.
Replies: 53
Views: 8006

Re: 2.9.0 Beta

Boss, do you ever stop to think that you might be overreacting a little? My criticisms below. If something isn't mentioned it's probably because I don't have an opinion or I think the change is good. Eldar Why reduce WS to 435/35? It's an insignificant amount and seeing as WS see a lot of use in 1v1...
by Antandron
Sat 16 Feb, 2019 4:33 pm
Forum: Tournaments
Topic: Monthly Faction War 14 @ February 17th
Replies: 31
Views: 1515

Re: Monthly Faction War 14 @ February 17th

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by Antandron
Fri 15 Feb, 2019 2:56 pm
Forum: Balance discussion
Topic: Do Catachans really need power melee?
Replies: 35
Views: 1635

Re: Do Catachans really need power melee?

Yabbaman wrote:It doesn't look right when some dudes wearing vests and headbands beat up armored infantry. Besides, IG T1 feels sufficiently powerful and Catachans get 90% of their utility from abilities. Discuss.


Catachans are so stealthy that they can sneak up on Spotters and steal their detection.
by Antandron
Mon 11 Feb, 2019 9:33 pm
Forum: Balance discussion
Topic: PPL say - get a topic. About meta-tyranid these days
Replies: 49
Views: 2794

Re: PPL say - get a topic. About meta-tyranid these days

Why not give IG a useful melee counter in T2 instead of OP stuff in T1? Why not give Nids an OK T2 instead of OP stuff in T1? No consolation to play vs a weak T2 if you get rekt by an OP T1. Same for a weak T3; it doesn't matter if a faction has a weak T3 if they have an OP T1 and T2 since they'll u...
by Antandron
Mon 11 Feb, 2019 7:39 pm
Forum: Balance discussion
Topic: PPL say - get a topic. About meta-tyranid these days
Replies: 49
Views: 2794

Re: PPL say - get a topic. About meta-tyranid these days

they useless T2 but overperforms T1. to the previous responses - I've said about move leap/speed to upgrade. not to remove it completely. because you SHOLD PAY for that advantage. They pay for that advantage in virtue of being tyranids - their t2 sucks. Just compare 3x horm build in t2 to triple sl...
by Antandron
Fri 08 Feb, 2019 3:35 pm
Forum: Releases
Topic: 2.9.0 Update and Roadmap
Replies: 41
Views: 4394

Re: 2.9.0 Update and Roadmap

Rangers Its the same with the rangers people complained that they were to easy to spam now with the cost decrease out of the gate right so maybe you look at there cost and change that right, nope you now reduce kinetic pulse range abit and put it behide there pathfinder gear...........................
by Antandron
Tue 29 Jan, 2019 5:34 pm
Forum: Balance discussion
Topic: Squad Leaders.
Replies: 3
Views: 464

Re: Squad Leaders.

I do it just to annoy you. But seriously, if the only rule that people agree on is that "If the squad leader is stronger than the base models in the squad, then the squad leader should cost more than the base models." then the following are probably OP/UnderCosted: Bone'ead, Purifier Justi...
by Antandron
Tue 29 Jan, 2019 3:26 pm
Forum: Balance discussion
Topic: Squad Leaders.
Replies: 3
Views: 464

Squad Leaders.

*This post might be garbage* I am going to argue that some squad leaders are mispriced, making them OP or UP, using a simple method of estimating squad leader cost that can be applied to all squad leaders in all factions. I've ignored all subtleties of squad leaders filling holes in rosters and all ...

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